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OT:Global Warming- NEWSFLASH, NOAA: July Temperature Below-Average for the U.S
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Cliff
2009-08-13 23:07:06 UTC
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Without a Gulf stream to carry away the equatorial thermal energy
accumulation, hurricanes and weather systems of the past will seam
insignificant to those of the future.
The Gulf Stream has already stopped.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=gulf+stream+stopped&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=
More confusion.
Per the ONE claim it stopped for 10 days in November 2004 and
then restarted.
That cannot happen.
FAR too much momentum in the ocean current circulation patterns.
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2009/20090810_julystats.html
More Global Warming Hoax confirmation today.
Liar.
You really don't have a clue, do you? None at all.

Any area will have periods of above & below average temps for that area.
Hence the "average". Some areas in the Western US set record highs per your own
link.
IIRC China was having a very hot summer.
I'd guess the arctic was warm too.

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/?report=national
[
Alaska had its 2nd warmest July since records began in 1918, with a temperature
2.9°F (1.6°C) above the 1971—2000 average.

Alaska had its 7th warmest May—July on record, with a temperature 2.1°F (1.2°C)
above the 1971—2000 average.

Alaska had its 27th warmest January—July on record, with a temperature 0.4°F
(0.2°C) above the 1971—2000 average.
]

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/
[
Selected Global Highlights for June 2009
Based on preliminary data, the globally averaged combined land and sea surface
temperature was the second warmest on record for June and the January-June
year-to-date tied with 2004 as the fifth warmest on record.
Large portions of each inhabited continent were substantially warmer than
average during June 2009. The warmest anomalies were most notable in parts of
Africa and most of Eurasia. The most notable cooler-than-average temperatures
were present from the southwestern U.S. to the Northern Plains, the Canadian
Prairie Provinces, central Asia, and across the boundary of northeastern China
and southeastern Russia.
]
[

El Niño–Southern Oscillation (ENSO) transitioned from ENSO-neutral to El Niño
conditions across the equatorial Pacific Ocean during June 2009. If El Niño
conditions continue to mature as projected by NOAA, global temperatures are
likely to continue to threaten previous record highs.
]

Wingers are fools.
--
Cliff
Cliff
2009-08-13 23:08:48 UTC
Permalink
Without a Gulf stream to carry away the equatorial thermal energy
accumulation, hurricanes and weather systems of the past will seam
insignificant to those of the future.
The Gulf Stream has already stopped.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=gulf+stream+stopped&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2009/20090810_julystats.html
More Global Warming Hoax confirmation today.
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State by State-NO US STATE had a record warmest July, lol!
Most states were record coolest - much below normal, lol again at the
crazy lunatics.
Any area will have periods of above & below average temps for that area.
Hence the "average". Some areas in the Western US set record highs per your own
link.
IIRC China was having a very hot summer.
I'd guess the arctic was warm too.

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/?report=national
[
Alaska had its 2nd warmest July since records began in 1918, with a temperature
2.9°F (1.6°C) above the 1971—2000 average.

Alaska had its 7th warmest May—July on record, with a temperature 2.1°F (1.2°C)
above the 1971—2000 average.

Alaska had its 27th warmest January—July on record, with a temperature 0.4°F
(0.2°C) above the 1971—2000 average.
]

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/
[
Selected Global Highlights for June 2009
Based on preliminary data, the globally averaged combined land and sea surface
temperature was the second warmest on record for June and the January-June
year-to-date tied with 2004 as the fifth warmest on record.
Large portions of each inhabited continent were substantially warmer than
average during June 2009. The warmest anomalies were most notable in parts of
Africa and most of Eurasia. The most notable cooler-than-average temperatures
were present from the southwestern U.S. to the Northern Plains, the Canadian
Prairie Provinces, central Asia, and across the boundary of northeastern China
and southeastern Russia.
]
[

El Niño–Southern Oscillation (ENSO) transitioned from ENSO-neutral to El Niño
conditions across the equatorial Pacific Ocean during June 2009. If El Niño
conditions continue to mature as projected by NOAA, global temperatures are
likely to continue to threaten previous record highs.
]

Wingers are confused liars.
--
Cliff
Curly Surmudgeon
2009-08-13 23:39:04 UTC
Permalink
Post by Cliff
Without a Gulf stream to carry away the equatorial thermal energy
accumulation, hurricanes and weather systems of the past will seam
insignificant to those of the future.
The Gulf Stream has already stopped.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=gulf+stream+stopped&btnG=Google
+Search&aq=f&oq=
Post by Cliff
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2009/20090810_julystats.html
More Global Warming Hoax confirmation today.
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2009/images/07statewidetrank.png
State by State-NO US STATE had a record warmest July, lol! Most states
were record coolest - much below normal, lol again at the crazy
lunatics.
Any area will have periods of above & below average temps for that area.
Hence the "average". Some areas in the Western US set record highs per
your own link.
IIRC China was having a very hot summer. I'd guess the arctic was
warm too.
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/?report=national
[
Alaska had its 2nd warmest July since records began in 1918, with a
temperature 2.9°F (1.6°C) above the 1971—2000 average.
Alaska had its 7th warmest May—July on record, with a temperature 2.1°F
(1.2°C) above the 1971—2000 average.
Alaska had its 27th warmest January—July on record, with a temperature
0.4°F (0.2°C) above the 1971—2000 average. ]
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/
[
Selected Global Highlights for June 2009 Based on preliminary data, the
globally averaged combined land and sea surface temperature was the
second warmest on record for June and the January-June year-to-date tied
with 2004 as the fifth warmest on record. Large portions of each
inhabited continent were substantially warmer than average during June
2009. The warmest anomalies were most notable in parts of Africa and
most of Eurasia. The most notable cooler-than-average temperatures were
present from the southwestern U.S. to the Northern Plains, the Canadian
Prairie Provinces, central Asia, and across the boundary of northeastern
China and southeastern Russia.
]
[
El Niño–Southern Oscillation (ENSO) transitioned from ENSO-neutral to El
Niño conditions across the equatorial Pacific Ocean during June 2009. If
El Niño conditions continue to mature as projected by NOAA, global
temperatures are likely to continue to threaten previous record highs. ]
Wingers are confused liars.
Actually I don't think they're lying but that deniers are practicing
intentional ignorance. They seem to fear the change in society and
lifestyle which will become mandatory when Global Warming is finally
accepted as fact.

For many, we've already accepted the fact. More and more are realizing
the radical changes in the earth's environment. That scares those who
resist change and drives them deeper into self-deception.
--
Regards, Curly
Buerste
2009-08-14 00:54:57 UTC
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"Curly Surmudgeon" <***@live.com> wrote in message news:***@live.com...
<snip>
Post by Curly Surmudgeon
Actually I don't think they're lying but that deniers are practicing
intentional ignorance. They seem to fear the change in society and
lifestyle which will become mandatory when Global Warming is finally
accepted as fact.
For many, we've already accepted the fact. More and more are realizing
the radical changes in the earth's environment. That scares those who
resist change and drives them deeper into self-deception.
--
Regards, Curly
Thanks! I needed a good laugh and reading your Truther, Aborter,
Short-Busser posts do the trick. You FUNNY! Can you even keep a straight
face when you compose your prose? Or...don't tell me...you actually
believe what you write? OH-MY-GOD, that's even MORE, big,
funnier! How can you TOP this??? Are you going to tell us about your alien
abduction and anal probing? Double-up your foil helmet and keep the shiny
side out!
Curly Surmudgeon
2009-08-14 02:38:43 UTC
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Post by Buerste
Post by Curly Surmudgeon
Actually I don't think they're lying but that deniers are practicing
intentional ignorance. They seem to fear the change in society and
lifestyle which will become mandatory when Global Warming is finally
accepted as fact.
For many, we've already accepted the fact. More and more are realizing
the radical changes in the earth's environment. That scares those who
resist change and drives them deeper into self-deception.
--
Regards, Curly
Thanks! I needed a good laugh and reading your Truther, Aborter,
Short-Busser posts do the trick. You FUNNY! Can you even keep a
straight face when you compose your prose? Or...don't tell me...you
actually believe what you write? OH-MY-GOD, that's even
MORE, big, funnier! How can you TOP this??? Are you going to tell us
about your alien abduction and anal probing? Double-up your foil helmet
and keep the shiny side out!
Thank you for proving the point...
--
Regards, Curly
HH&C
2009-08-22 00:04:21 UTC
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Without a Gulf stream to carry away the equatorial thermal energy
accumulation, hurricanes and weather systems of the past will seam
insignificant to those of the future.
The Gulf Stream has already stopped.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=gulf+stream+stopped&btnG=Google
+Search&aq=f&oq=
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2009/20090810_julystats.html
More Global Warming Hoax confirmation today.
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2009/images/07statewidetrank.png
State by State-NO US STATE had a record warmest July, lol! Most states
were record coolest - much below normal, lol again at the crazy
lunatics.
       Any area will have periods of above & below average temps for
       that area.
Hence the "average". Some areas in the Western US set record highs per
your own link.
       IIRC China was having a very hot summer. I'd guess the arctic was
       warm too.
 http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/?report=national
[
Alaska had its 2nd warmest July since records began in 1918, with a
temperature 2.9°F (1.6°C) above the 1971—2000 average.
Alaska had its 7th warmest May—July on record, with a temperature 2.1°F
(1.2°C) above the 1971—2000 average.
Alaska had its 27th warmest January—July on record, with a temperature
0.4°F (0.2°C) above the 1971—2000 average. ]
       http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/
[
Selected Global Highlights for June 2009 Based on preliminary data, the
globally averaged combined land and sea surface temperature was the
second warmest on record for June and the January-June year-to-date tied
with 2004 as the fifth warmest on record. Large portions of each
inhabited continent were substantially warmer than average during June
2009. The warmest anomalies were most notable in parts of Africa and
most of Eurasia. The most notable cooler-than-average temperatures were
present from the southwestern U.S. to the Northern Plains, the Canadian
Prairie Provinces, central Asia, and across the boundary of northeastern
China and southeastern Russia.
]
[
El Niño–Southern Oscillation (ENSO) transitioned from ENSO-neutral to El
Niño conditions across the equatorial Pacific Ocean during June 2009. If
El Niño conditions continue to mature as projected by NOAA, global
temperatures are likely to continue to threaten previous record highs. ]
  Wingers are confused liars.
Actually I don't think they're lying but that deniers are practicing
intentional ignorance.  They seem to fear the change in society and
lifestyle which will become mandatory when Global Warming is finally
accepted as fact.
What do you know of climate, Alberto? Post your credentials.
For many, we've already accepted the fact.  More and more are realizing
the radical changes in the earth's environment.  That scares those who
resist change and drives them deeper into self-deception.
Actually, that scares those who are guillable.
--
Regards, Curly
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Lewis Hartswick
2009-08-22 02:50:08 UTC
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Post by HH&C
Post by Cliff
Without a Gulf stream to carry away the equatorial thermal energy
accumulation, hurricanes and weather systems of the past will seam
insignificant to those of the future.
The Gulf Stream has already stopped.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=gulf+stream+stopped&btnG=Google
+Search&aq=f&oq=
Post by Cliff
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2009/20090810_julystats.html
More Global Warming Hoax confirmation today.
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2009/images/07statewidetrank.png
State by State-NO US STATE had a record warmest July, lol! Most states
were record coolest - much below normal, lol again at the crazy
lunatics.
Any area will have periods of above & below average temps for that area.
Hence the "average". Some areas in the Western US set record highs per
your own link.
IIRC China was having a very hot summer. I'd guess the arctic was
warm too.
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/?report=national
[
Alaska had its 2nd warmest July since records began in 1918, with a
temperature 2.9°F (1.6°C) above the 1971—2000 average.
Alaska had its 7th warmest May—July on record, with a temperature 2.1°F
(1.2°C) above the 1971—2000 average.
Alaska had its 27th warmest January—July on record, with a temperature
0.4°F (0.2°C) above the 1971—2000 average. ]
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/
[
Selected Global Highlights for June 2009 Based on preliminary data, the
globally averaged combined land and sea surface temperature was the
second warmest on record for June and the January-June year-to-date tied
with 2004 as the fifth warmest on record. Large portions of each
inhabited continent were substantially warmer than average during June
2009. The warmest anomalies were most notable in parts of Africa and
most of Eurasia. The most notable cooler-than-average temperatures were
present from the southwestern U.S. to the Northern Plains, the Canadian
Prairie Provinces, central Asia, and across the boundary of northeastern
China and southeastern Russia.
]
[
El Niño–Southern Oscillation (ENSO) transitioned from ENSO-neutral to El
Niño conditions across the equatorial Pacific Ocean during June 2009. If
El Niño conditions continue to mature as projected by NOAA, global
temperatures are likely to continue to threaten previous record highs. ]
Wingers are confused liars.
Actually I don't think they're lying but that deniers are practicing
intentional ignorance. They seem to fear the change in society and
lifestyle which will become mandatory when Global Warming is finally
accepted as fact.
What do you know of climate, Alberto? Post your credentials.
For many, we've already accepted the fact. More and more are realizing
the radical changes in the earth's environment. That scares those who
resist change and drives them deeper into self-deception.
Actually, that scares those who are guillable.
--
Regards, Curly
At the risk of being pounced on for responding to silly threads:

Even if there is "Global Warming" why are so many people willing
to blame it on Humans? There were many periods of warm and others
of cold LOOOOONG before there were even humans on the earth.
(Unless you are one of those who think the earth began 5000 yrs ago)
...lew...
Gunner Asch
2009-08-22 03:55:02 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 20:50:08 -0600, Lewis Hartswick
Post by Lewis Hartswick
Post by HH&C
Post by Cliff
Without a Gulf stream to carry away the equatorial thermal energy
accumulation, hurricanes and weather systems of the past will seam
insignificant to those of the future.
The Gulf Stream has already stopped.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=gulf+stream+stopped&btnG=Google
+Search&aq=f&oq=
Post by Cliff
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2009/20090810_julystats.html
More Global Warming Hoax confirmation today.
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2009/images/07statewidetrank.png
State by State-NO US STATE had a record warmest July, lol! Most states
were record coolest - much below normal, lol again at the crazy
lunatics.
Any area will have periods of above & below average temps for
that area.
Hence the "average". Some areas in the Western US set record highs per
your own link.
IIRC China was having a very hot summer. I'd guess the arctic was
warm too.
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/?report=national
[
Alaska had its 2nd warmest July since records began in 1918, with a
temperature 2.9°F (1.6°C) above the 1971—2000 average.
Alaska had its 7th warmest May—July on record, with a temperature 2.1°F
(1.2°C) above the 1971—2000 average.
Alaska had its 27th warmest January—July on record, with a temperature
0.4°F (0.2°C) above the 1971—2000 average. ]
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/
[
Selected Global Highlights for June 2009 Based on preliminary data, the
globally averaged combined land and sea surface temperature was the
second warmest on record for June and the January-June year-to-date tied
with 2004 as the fifth warmest on record. Large portions of each
inhabited continent were substantially warmer than average during June
2009. The warmest anomalies were most notable in parts of Africa and
most of Eurasia. The most notable cooler-than-average temperatures were
present from the southwestern U.S. to the Northern Plains, the Canadian
Prairie Provinces, central Asia, and across the boundary of northeastern
China and southeastern Russia.
]
[
El Niño–Southern Oscillation (ENSO) transitioned from ENSO-neutral to El
Niño conditions across the equatorial Pacific Ocean during June 2009. If
El Niño conditions continue to mature as projected by NOAA, global
temperatures are likely to continue to threaten previous record highs. ]
Wingers are confused liars.
Actually I don't think they're lying but that deniers are practicing
intentional ignorance. They seem to fear the change in society and
lifestyle which will become mandatory when Global Warming is finally
accepted as fact.
What do you know of climate, Alberto? Post your credentials.
For many, we've already accepted the fact. More and more are realizing
the radical changes in the earth's environment. That scares those who
resist change and drives them deeper into self-deception.
Actually, that scares those who are guillable.
--
Regards, Curly
Even if there is "Global Warming" why are so many people willing
to blame it on Humans? There were many periods of warm and others
of cold LOOOOONG before there were even humans on the earth.
(Unless you are one of those who think the earth began 5000 yrs ago)
...lew...
Its another Leftwing mantra. Like free dope. It brings in government
money to people who are incapable of providing anything to anyone,
except bullshit.

And they are often devotees of dope.

Gunner

Whenever a Liberal utters the term "Common Sense approach"....grab your
wallet, your ass, and your guns because the sombitch is about to do
something damned nasty to all three of them.
Observer
2009-08-25 03:29:49 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 20:55:02 -0700, Gunner Asch
Post by Gunner Asch
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 20:50:08 -0600, Lewis Hartswick
Post by Lewis Hartswick
Post by HH&C
Post by Cliff
Without a Gulf stream to carry away the equatorial thermal energy
accumulation, hurricanes and weather systems of the past will seam
insignificant to those of the future.
The Gulf Stream has already stopped.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=gulf+stream+stopped&btnG=Google
+Search&aq=f&oq=
Post by Cliff
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2009/20090810_julystats.html
More Global Warming Hoax confirmation today.
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2009/images/07statewidetrank.png
State by State-NO US STATE had a record warmest July, lol! Most states
were record coolest - much below normal, lol again at the crazy
lunatics.
Any area will have periods of above & below average temps for
that area.
Hence the "average". Some areas in the Western US set record highs per
your own link.
IIRC China was having a very hot summer. I'd guess the arctic was
warm too.
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/?report=national
[
Alaska had its 2nd warmest July since records began in 1918, with a
temperature 2.9°F (1.6°C) above the 1971—2000 average.
Alaska had its 7th warmest May—July on record, with a temperature 2.1°F
(1.2°C) above the 1971—2000 average.
Alaska had its 27th warmest January—July on record, with a temperature
0.4°F (0.2°C) above the 1971—2000 average. ]
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/
[
Selected Global Highlights for June 2009 Based on preliminary data, the
globally averaged combined land and sea surface temperature was the
second warmest on record for June and the January-June year-to-date tied
with 2004 as the fifth warmest on record. Large portions of each
inhabited continent were substantially warmer than average during June
2009. The warmest anomalies were most notable in parts of Africa and
most of Eurasia. The most notable cooler-than-average temperatures were
present from the southwestern U.S. to the Northern Plains, the Canadian
Prairie Provinces, central Asia, and across the boundary of northeastern
China and southeastern Russia.
]
[
El Niño–Southern Oscillation (ENSO) transitioned from ENSO-neutral to El
Niño conditions across the equatorial Pacific Ocean during June 2009. If
El Niño conditions continue to mature as projected by NOAA, global
temperatures are likely to continue to threaten previous record highs. ]
Wingers are confused liars.
Actually I don't think they're lying but that deniers are practicing
intentional ignorance. They seem to fear the change in society and
lifestyle which will become mandatory when Global Warming is finally
accepted as fact.
What do you know of climate, Alberto? Post your credentials.
For many, we've already accepted the fact. More and more are realizing
the radical changes in the earth's environment. That scares those who
resist change and drives them deeper into self-deception.
Actually, that scares those who are guillable.
--
Regards, Curly
Even if there is "Global Warming" why are so many people willing
to blame it on Humans? There were many periods of warm and others
of cold LOOOOONG before there were even humans on the earth.
(Unless you are one of those who think the earth began 5000 yrs ago)
...lew...
Its another Leftwing mantra. Like free dope. It brings in government
money to people who are incapable of providing anything to anyone,
except bullshit.
Free medical care to worthless eaters, like yourself, Herr Gumby?


__

The last official act of any government is the looting of the nation.
Curly Surmudgeon
2009-08-25 16:25:55 UTC
Permalink
Post by Observer
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 20:55:02 -0700, Gunner Asch
Post by Gunner Asch
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 20:50:08 -0600, Lewis Hartswick
Post by HH&C
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 21:18:40 -0400, Michael
On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 13:41:43 -0500, T. Keating
Without a Gulf stream to carry away the equatorial thermal
energy accumulation, hurricanes and weather systems of the past
will seam insignificant to those of the future.
The Gulf Stream has already stopped.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=gulf+stream
+stopped&btnG=Google
Post by Observer
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by HH&C
+Search&aq=f&oq=
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2009/20090810_julystats.html
More Global Warming Hoax confirmation today.
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2009/
images/07statewidetrank.png
Post by Observer
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by HH&C
State by State-NO US STATE had a record warmest July, lol! Most
states were record coolest - much below normal, lol again at the
crazy lunatics.
Any area will have periods of above & below average temps
for that area.
Hence the "average". Some areas in the Western US set record highs
per your own link.
IIRC China was having a very hot summer. I'd guess the
arctic was warm too.
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/?report=national
[
Alaska had its 2nd warmest July since records began in 1918, with a
temperature 2.9°F (1.6°C) above the 1971—2000 average. Alaska had
its 7th warmest May—July on record, with a temperature 2.1°F
(1.2°C) above the 1971—2000 average. Alaska had its 27th warmest
January—July on record, with a temperature 0.4°F (0.2°C) above the
1971—2000 average. ]
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/
[
Selected Global Highlights for June 2009 Based on preliminary data,
the globally averaged combined land and sea surface temperature was
the second warmest on record for June and the January-June
year-to-date tied with 2004 as the fifth warmest on record. Large
portions of each inhabited continent were substantially warmer than
average during June 2009. The warmest anomalies were most notable
in parts of Africa and most of Eurasia. The most notable
cooler-than-average temperatures were present from the southwestern
U.S. to the Northern Plains, the Canadian Prairie Provinces,
central Asia, and across the boundary of northeastern China and
southeastern Russia.
]
[
El Niño–Southern Oscillation (ENSO) transitioned from ENSO-neutral
to El Niño conditions across the equatorial Pacific Ocean during
June 2009. If El Niño conditions continue to mature as projected by
NOAA, global temperatures are likely to continue to threaten
previous record highs. ]
Wingers are confused liars.
Actually I don't think they're lying but that deniers are practicing
intentional ignorance. They seem to fear the change in society and
lifestyle which will become mandatory when Global Warming is finally
accepted as fact.
What do you know of climate, Alberto? Post your credentials.
For many, we've already accepted the fact. More and more are
realizing the radical changes in the earth's environment. That
scares those who resist change and drives them deeper into
self-deception.
Actually, that scares those who are guillable.
--
Regards, Curly
Even if there is "Global Warming" why are so many people willing to
blame it on Humans? There were many periods of warm and others of cold
LOOOOONG before there were even humans on the earth. (Unless you are
one of those who think the earth began 5000 yrs ago)
...lew...
Its another Leftwing mantra. Like free dope. It brings in government
money to people who are incapable of providing anything to anyone,
except bullshit.
Free medical care to worthless eaters, like yourself, Herr Gumby?
__
The last official act of any government is the looting of the nation.
Gummer's term was "useless eaters".
--
Regards, Curly
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HH&C
2009-08-26 00:19:58 UTC
Permalink
Post by Observer
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 20:55:02 -0700, Gunner Asch
Post by Gunner Asch
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 20:50:08 -0600, Lewis Hartswick
Post by Curly Surmudgeon
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 21:18:40 -0400, Michael
On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 13:41:43 -0500, T. Keating
Without a Gulf stream to carry away the equatorial thermal
energy accumulation, hurricanes and weather systems of the past
will seam insignificant to those of the future.
The Gulf Stream has already stopped.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=gulf+stream
+stopped&btnG=Google>>>>> +Search&aq=f&oq=
Post by Observer
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by Curly Surmudgeon
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2009/20090810_julystats.html
More Global Warming Hoax confirmation today.
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2009/
images/07statewidetrank.png
Post by Observer
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by Curly Surmudgeon
State by State-NO US STATE had a record warmest July, lol! Most
states were record coolest - much below normal, lol again at the
crazy lunatics.
       Any area will have periods of above & below average temps
       for that area.
Hence the "average". Some areas in the Western US set record highs
per your own link.
       IIRC China was having a very hot summer. I'd guess the
       arctic was warm too.
 http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/?report=national
[
Alaska had its 2nd warmest July since records began in 1918, with a
temperature 2.9°F (1.6°C) above the 1971—2000 average. Alaska had
its 7th warmest May—July on record, with a temperature 2.1°F
(1.2°C) above the 1971—2000 average. Alaska had its 27th warmest
January—July on record, with a temperature 0.4°F (0.2°C) above the
1971—2000 average. ]
       http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/
[
Selected Global Highlights for June 2009 Based on preliminary data,
the globally averaged combined land and sea surface temperature was
the second warmest on record for June and the January-June
year-to-date tied with 2004 as the fifth warmest on record. Large
portions of each inhabited continent were substantially warmer than
average during June 2009. The warmest anomalies were most notable
in parts of Africa and most of Eurasia. The most notable
cooler-than-average temperatures were present from the southwestern
U.S. to the Northern Plains, the Canadian Prairie Provinces,
central Asia, and across the boundary of northeastern China and
southeastern Russia.
]
[
El Niño–Southern Oscillation (ENSO) transitioned from ENSO-neutral
to El Niño conditions across the equatorial Pacific Ocean during
June 2009. If El Niño conditions continue to mature as projected by
NOAA, global temperatures are likely to continue to threaten
previous record highs. ]
  Wingers are confused liars.
Actually I don't think they're lying but that deniers are practicing
intentional ignorance.  They seem to fear the change in society and
lifestyle which will become mandatory when Global Warming is finally
accepted as fact.
What do you know of climate, Alberto?  Post your credentials.
Post by Curly Surmudgeon
For many, we've already accepted the fact.  More and more are
realizing the radical changes in the earth's environment.  That
scares those who resist change and drives them deeper into
self-deception.
Actually, that scares those who are guillable.
Post by Curly Surmudgeon
--
Regards, Curly
Even if there is "Global Warming" why are so many people willing to
blame it on Humans? There were many periods of warm and others of cold
LOOOOONG before there were even humans on the earth. (Unless you are
one of those who think the earth began 5000 yrs ago)
   ...lew...
Its another Leftwing mantra. Like free dope.  It brings in government
money to people who are incapable of providing anything to anyone,
except bullshit.
Free medical care to worthless eaters, like yourself, Herr Gumby?
__
The last official act of any government is the looting of the nation.
Gummer's term was "useless eaters".
Alberto Smudge's term was "CrazyMotherFuckers."

And he has yet to post his credentials as a climate scientist.
--
Regards, Curly
---------------------------------------------------------------------------­---
  Alberto Says Earth's Climate is a CLOSED System! Hi, hi!
---------------------------------------------------------------------------­---
I M @ good guy
2009-08-22 09:06:01 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 20:50:08 -0600, Lewis Hartswick
Post by Lewis Hartswick
Even if there is "Global Warming" why are so many people willing
to blame it on Humans? There were many periods of warm and others
of cold LOOOOONG before there were even humans on the earth.
(Unless you are one of those who think the earth began 5000 yrs ago)
...lew...
Because there are some "save the planet heros" that
first were told that particulates from volcanic eruptions, etc.
can reflect incoming sunlight off into space, and then told
that CO2 absorbs and delays the Infra-Red radiation from
the surface to space.

This is based on the premise that the GHGs on Earth
make it 33 degrees warmer than if there was no atmosphere
at all, like the moon.

A branch of geology studies the past, and evidence
of past ice ages is seen, and the save the planet heros
that learned how to say SEE-OH-TWO decided that
CO2 is what warms the Earth to bring it out of an
ice age.

There is no way to control humidity in nature, but
the amount of CO2 produced by man burning fossil
fuels can be controlled, and taxed.

So as it gets colder due to all the Global Warming,
man will burn more fossil fuels to keep warm, and will
have to pay more taxes.
HH&C
2009-08-23 15:51:49 UTC
Permalink
Post by Lewis Hartswick
Without a Gulf stream to carry away the equatorial thermal energy
accumulation, hurricanes and weather systems of the past will seam
insignificant to those of the future.
The Gulf Stream has already stopped.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=gulf+stream+stopped&btnG=Google
+Search&aq=f&oq=
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2009/20090810_julystats.html
More Global Warming Hoax confirmation today.
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2009/images/07statewidetrank.png
State by State-NO US STATE had a record warmest July, lol! Most states
were record coolest - much below normal, lol again at the crazy
lunatics.
       Any area will have periods of above & below average temps for
       that area.
Hence the "average". Some areas in the Western US set record highs per
your own link.
       IIRC China was having a very hot summer. I'd guess the arctic was
       warm too.
 http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/?report=national
[
Alaska had its 2nd warmest July since records began in 1918, with a
temperature 2.9°F (1.6°C) above the 1971—2000 average.
Alaska had its 7th warmest May—July on record, with a temperature 2.1°F
(1.2°C) above the 1971—2000 average.
Alaska had its 27th warmest January—July on record, with a temperature
0.4°F (0.2°C) above the 1971—2000 average. ]
       http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/
[
Selected Global Highlights for June 2009 Based on preliminary data, the
globally averaged combined land and sea surface temperature was the
second warmest on record for June and the January-June year-to-date tied
with 2004 as the fifth warmest on record. Large portions of each
inhabited continent were substantially warmer than average during June
2009. The warmest anomalies were most notable in parts of Africa and
most of Eurasia. The most notable cooler-than-average temperatures were
present from the southwestern U.S. to the Northern Plains, the Canadian
Prairie Provinces, central Asia, and across the boundary of northeastern
China and southeastern Russia.
]
[
El Niño–Southern Oscillation (ENSO) transitioned from ENSO-neutral to El
Niño conditions across the equatorial Pacific Ocean during June 2009. If
El Niño conditions continue to mature as projected by NOAA, global
temperatures are likely to continue to threaten previous record highs. ]
  Wingers are confused liars.
Actually I don't think they're lying but that deniers are practicing
intentional ignorance.  They seem to fear the change in society and
lifestyle which will become mandatory when Global Warming is finally
accepted as fact.
What do you know of climate, Alberto?  Post your credentials.
For many, we've already accepted the fact.  More and more are realizing
the radical changes in the earth's environment.  That scares those who
resist change and drives them deeper into self-deception.
Actually, that scares those who are guillable.
--
Regards, Curly
Even if there is "Global Warming" why are so many people willing
to blame it on Humans? There were many periods of warm and others
of cold LOOOOONG before there were even humans on the earth.
(Unless you are one of those who think the earth began 5000 yrs ago)
    ...lew...
Lew, you state the obvious.

The far left say they have no religion, but this is it. Humanism.
When humans are present they are to blame. Humans have replaced God
as being the all powerful. Humans have made this disaste (global
warming) and humans will fix it.
Observer
2009-08-25 03:33:02 UTC
Permalink
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 08:51:49 -0700 (PDT), "HH&C"
Post by HH&C
Post by Lewis Hartswick
Without a Gulf stream to carry away the equatorial thermal energy
accumulation, hurricanes and weather systems of the past will seam
insignificant to those of the future.
The Gulf Stream has already stopped.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=gulf+stream+stopped&btnG=Google
+Search&aq=f&oq=
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2009/20090810_julystats.html
More Global Warming Hoax confirmation today.
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2009/images/07statewidetrank.png
State by State-NO US STATE had a record warmest July, lol! Most states
were record coolest - much below normal, lol again at the crazy
lunatics.
       Any area will have periods of above & below average temps for
       that area.
Hence the "average". Some areas in the Western US set record highs per
your own link.
       IIRC China was having a very hot summer. I'd guess the arctic was
       warm too.
 http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/?report=national
[
Alaska had its 2nd warmest July since records began in 1918, with a
temperature 2.9°F (1.6°C) above the 1971—2000 average.
Alaska had its 7th warmest May—July on record, with a temperature 2.1°F
(1.2°C) above the 1971—2000 average.
Alaska had its 27th warmest January—July on record, with a temperature
0.4°F (0.2°C) above the 1971—2000 average. ]
       http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/
[
Selected Global Highlights for June 2009 Based on preliminary data, the
globally averaged combined land and sea surface temperature was the
second warmest on record for June and the January-June year-to-date tied
with 2004 as the fifth warmest on record. Large portions of each
inhabited continent were substantially warmer than average during June
2009. The warmest anomalies were most notable in parts of Africa and
most of Eurasia. The most notable cooler-than-average temperatures were
present from the southwestern U.S. to the Northern Plains, the Canadian
Prairie Provinces, central Asia, and across the boundary of northeastern
China and southeastern Russia.
]
[
El Niño–Southern Oscillation (ENSO) transitioned from ENSO-neutral to El
Niño conditions across the equatorial Pacific Ocean during June 2009. If
El Niño conditions continue to mature as projected by NOAA, global
temperatures are likely to continue to threaten previous record highs. ]
  Wingers are confused liars.
Actually I don't think they're lying but that deniers are practicing
intentional ignorance.  They seem to fear the change in society and
lifestyle which will become mandatory when Global Warming is finally
accepted as fact.
What do you know of climate, Alberto?  Post your credentials.
For many, we've already accepted the fact.  More and more are realizing
the radical changes in the earth's environment.  That scares those who
resist change and drives them deeper into self-deception.
Actually, that scares those who are guillable.
--
Regards, Curly
Even if there is "Global Warming" why are so many people willing
to blame it on Humans? There were many periods of warm and others
of cold LOOOOONG before there were even humans on the earth.
(Unless you are one of those who think the earth began 5000 yrs ago)
    ...lew...
Lew, you state the obvious.
The far left say they have no religion, but this is it. Humanism.
When humans are present they are to blame. Humans have replaced God
as being the all powerful. Humans have made this disaste (global
warming) and humans will fix it.
You just keep getting nuttier, doncha?

__

The last official act of any government is the looting of the nation.
HH&C
2009-08-26 00:23:19 UTC
Permalink
Post by Observer
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 08:51:49 -0700 (PDT), "HH&C"
Post by HH&C
Post by Lewis Hartswick
Without a Gulf stream to carry away the equatorial thermal energy
accumulation, hurricanes and weather systems of the past will seam
insignificant to those of the future.
The Gulf Stream has already stopped.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=gulf+stream+stopped&btnG=Google
+Search&aq=f&oq=
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2009/20090810_julystats.html
More Global Warming Hoax confirmation today.
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2009/images/07statewidetrank.png
State by State-NO US STATE had a record warmest July, lol! Most states
were record coolest - much below normal, lol again at the crazy
lunatics.
       Any area will have periods of above & below average temps for
       that area.
Hence the "average". Some areas in the Western US set record highs per
your own link.
       IIRC China was having a very hot summer. I'd guess the arctic was
       warm too.
 http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/?report=national
[
Alaska had its 2nd warmest July since records began in 1918, with a
temperature 2.9°F (1.6°C) above the 1971—2000 average.
Alaska had its 7th warmest May—July on record, with a temperature 2.1°F
(1.2°C) above the 1971—2000 average.
Alaska had its 27th warmest January—July on record, with a temperature
0.4°F (0.2°C) above the 1971—2000 average. ]
       http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/
[
Selected Global Highlights for June 2009 Based on preliminary data, the
globally averaged combined land and sea surface temperature was the
second warmest on record for June and the January-June year-to-date tied
with 2004 as the fifth warmest on record. Large portions of each
inhabited continent were substantially warmer than average during June
2009. The warmest anomalies were most notable in parts of Africa and
most of Eurasia. The most notable cooler-than-average temperatures were
present from the southwestern U.S. to the Northern Plains, the Canadian
Prairie Provinces, central Asia, and across the boundary of northeastern
China and southeastern Russia.
]
[
El Niño–Southern Oscillation (ENSO) transitioned from ENSO-neutral to El
Niño conditions across the equatorial Pacific Ocean during June 2009. If
El Niño conditions continue to mature as projected by NOAA, global
temperatures are likely to continue to threaten previous record highs. ]
  Wingers are confused liars.
Actually I don't think they're lying but that deniers are practicing
intentional ignorance.  They seem to fear the change in society and
lifestyle which will become mandatory when Global Warming is finally
accepted as fact.
What do you know of climate, Alberto?  Post your credentials.
For many, we've already accepted the fact.  More and more are realizing
the radical changes in the earth's environment.  That scares those who
resist change and drives them deeper into self-deception.
Actually, that scares those who are guillable.
--
Regards, Curly
Even if there is "Global Warming" why are so many people willing
to blame it on Humans? There were many periods of warm and others
of cold LOOOOONG before there were even humans on the earth.
(Unless you are one of those who think the earth began 5000 yrs ago)
    ...lew...
Lew, you state the obvious.
The far left say they have no religion, but this is it.  Humanism.
When humans are present they are to blame.  Humans have replaced God
as being the all powerful.  Humans have made this disaste (global
warming) and humans will fix it.
You just keep getting nuttier, doncha?
We are so powerful that we can change the climate on a global scale,
and we are still more powerful that we can change it back to some
point in time on a global scale. That about sums it up, right?
Observer
2009-08-26 18:51:40 UTC
Permalink
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:23:19 -0700 (PDT), "HH&C"
Post by HH&C
Post by Observer
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 08:51:49 -0700 (PDT), "HH&C"
Post by HH&C
Post by Lewis Hartswick
Without a Gulf stream to carry away the equatorial thermal energy
accumulation, hurricanes and weather systems of the past will seam
insignificant to those of the future.
The Gulf Stream has already stopped.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=gulf+stream+stopped&btnG=Google
+Search&aq=f&oq=
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2009/20090810_julystats.html
More Global Warming Hoax confirmation today.
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2009/images/07statewidetrank.png
State by State-NO US STATE had a record warmest July, lol! Most states
were record coolest - much below normal, lol again at the crazy
lunatics.
       Any area will have periods of above & below average temps for
       that area.
Hence the "average". Some areas in the Western US set record highs per
your own link.
       IIRC China was having a very hot summer. I'd guess the arctic was
       warm too.
 http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/?report=national
[
Alaska had its 2nd warmest July since records began in 1918, with a
temperature 2.9°F (1.6°C) above the 1971—2000 average.
Alaska had its 7th warmest May—July on record, with a temperature 2.1°F
(1.2°C) above the 1971—2000 average.
Alaska had its 27th warmest January—July on record, with a temperature
0.4°F (0.2°C) above the 1971—2000 average. ]
       http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/
[
Selected Global Highlights for June 2009 Based on preliminary data, the
globally averaged combined land and sea surface temperature was the
second warmest on record for June and the January-June year-to-date tied
with 2004 as the fifth warmest on record. Large portions of each
inhabited continent were substantially warmer than average during June
2009. The warmest anomalies were most notable in parts of Africa and
most of Eurasia. The most notable cooler-than-average temperatures were
present from the southwestern U.S. to the Northern Plains, the Canadian
Prairie Provinces, central Asia, and across the boundary of northeastern
China and southeastern Russia.
]
[
El Niño–Southern Oscillation (ENSO) transitioned from ENSO-neutral to El
Niño conditions across the equatorial Pacific Ocean during June 2009. If
El Niño conditions continue to mature as projected by NOAA, global
temperatures are likely to continue to threaten previous record highs. ]
  Wingers are confused liars.
Actually I don't think they're lying but that deniers are practicing
intentional ignorance.  They seem to fear the change in society and
lifestyle which will become mandatory when Global Warming is finally
accepted as fact.
What do you know of climate, Alberto?  Post your credentials.
For many, we've already accepted the fact.  More and more are realizing
the radical changes in the earth's environment.  That scares those who
resist change and drives them deeper into self-deception.
Actually, that scares those who are guillable.
--
Regards, Curly
Even if there is "Global Warming" why are so many people willing
to blame it on Humans? There were many periods of warm and others
of cold LOOOOONG before there were even humans on the earth.
(Unless you are one of those who think the earth began 5000 yrs ago)
    ...lew...
Lew, you state the obvious.
The far left say they have no religion, but this is it.  Humanism.
When humans are present they are to blame.  Humans have replaced God
as being the all powerful.  Humans have made this disaste (global
warming) and humans will fix it.
You just keep getting nuttier, doncha?
We are so powerful that we can change the climate on a global scale,
and we are still more powerful that we can change it back to some
point in time on a global scale. That about sums it up, right?
Thanks for illustrating my point.
__

The last official act of any government is the looting of the nation.
HH&C
2009-10-16 21:01:05 UTC
Permalink
Post by Observer
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:23:19 -0700 (PDT), "HH&C"
Post by HH&C
Post by Observer
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 08:51:49 -0700 (PDT), "HH&C"
Post by HH&C
Post by Lewis Hartswick
Without a Gulf stream to carry away the equatorial thermal energy
accumulation, hurricanes and weather systems of the past will seam
insignificant to those of the future.
The Gulf Stream has already stopped.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=gulf+stream+stopped&btnG=Google
+Search&aq=f&oq=
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2009/20090810_julystats.html
More Global Warming Hoax confirmation today.
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2009/images/07statewidetrank.png
State by State-NO US STATE had a record warmest July, lol! Most states
were record coolest - much below normal, lol again at the crazy
lunatics.
       Any area will have periods of above & below average temps for
       that area.
Hence the "average". Some areas in the Western US set record highs per
your own link.
       IIRC China was having a very hot summer. I'd guess the arctic was
       warm too.
 http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/?report=national
[
Alaska had its 2nd warmest July since records began in 1918, with a
temperature 2.9°F (1.6°C) above the 1971—2000 average.
Alaska had its 7th warmest May—July on record, with a temperature 2.1°F
(1.2°C) above the 1971—2000 average.
Alaska had its 27th warmest January—July on record, with a temperature
0.4°F (0.2°C) above the 1971—2000 average. ]
       http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/
[
Selected Global Highlights for June 2009 Based on preliminary data, the
globally averaged combined land and sea surface temperature was the
second warmest on record for June and the January-June year-to-date tied
with 2004 as the fifth warmest on record. Large portions of each
inhabited continent were substantially warmer than average during June
2009. The warmest anomalies were most notable in parts of Africa and
most of Eurasia. The most notable cooler-than-average temperatures were
present from the southwestern U.S. to the Northern Plains, the Canadian
Prairie Provinces, central Asia, and across the boundary of northeastern
China and southeastern Russia.
]
[
El Niño–Southern Oscillation (ENSO) transitioned from ENSO-neutral to El
Niño conditions across the equatorial Pacific Ocean during June 2009. If
El Niño conditions continue to mature as projected by NOAA, global
temperatures are likely to continue to threaten previous record highs. ]
  Wingers are confused liars.
Actually I don't think they're lying but that deniers are practicing
intentional ignorance.  They seem to fear the change in society and
lifestyle which will become mandatory when Global Warming is finally
accepted as fact.
What do you know of climate, Alberto?  Post your credentials.
For many, we've already accepted the fact.  More and more are realizing
the radical changes in the earth's environment.  That scares those who
resist change and drives them deeper into self-deception.
Actually, that scares those who are guillable.
--
Regards, Curly
Even if there is "Global Warming" why are so many people willing
to blame it on Humans? There were many periods of warm and others
of cold LOOOOONG before there were even humans on the earth.
(Unless you are one of those who think the earth began 5000 yrs ago)
    ...lew...
Lew, you state the obvious.
The far left say they have no religion, but this is it.  Humanism.
When humans are present they are to blame.  Humans have replaced God
as being the all powerful.  Humans have made this disaste (global
warming) and humans will fix it.
You just keep getting nuttier, doncha?
We are so powerful that we can change the climate on a global scale,
and we are still more powerful that we can change it back to some
point in time on a global scale.  That about sums it up, right?
Thanks for illustrating my point.
I guess you didn't want to talk about climate change after all.

Cliff
2009-08-13 23:15:56 UTC
Permalink
Without a Gulf stream to carry away the equatorial thermal energy
accumulation, hurricanes and weather systems of the past will seam
insignificant to those of the future.
The Gulf Stream has already stopped.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=gulf+stream+stopped&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=
*UN CLIMATE WARNING: 'WE HAVE 4 MONTHS TO SECURE FUTURE OF PLANET'...
<http://www.un.org/apps/news/infocus/sgspeeches/statments_full.asp?statID=557>
the sky is falling, we must vote for spending more of our grand
children's future before everybody figures this hoax out!!
*
I take it you never bothered yourself to read your own cited link.
Pretty funny.
--
Cliff
Cliff
2009-08-25 00:41:57 UTC
Permalink
Post by Cliff
Without a Gulf stream to carry away the equatorial thermal energy
accumulation, hurricanes and weather systems of the past will seam
insignificant to those of the future.
The Gulf Stream has already stopped.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=gulf+stream+stopped&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=
*UN CLIMATE WARNING: 'WE HAVE 4 MONTHS TO SECURE FUTURE OF PLANET'...
<http://www.un.org/apps/news/infocus/sgspeeches/statments_full.asp?statID=557>
the sky is falling, we must vote for spending more of our grand
children's future before everybody figures this hoax out!!
*
I take it you never bothered yourself to read your own cited link.
Pretty funny.
You take everything how you wish it to be, once again as per usual, you
are wrong. I'm just not a gullible pathetic liberal with my hand out.
What are you gibbering about now?
You still did no reading or research, right?
You still hae absolutely no idea what any of this is about, right?
OTOH With you that seems to be your SOP.
Why have you not had insurance Cliff?
What are you droolng about now?
Explain. Just try. Use simple words.
Waiting for the free handout?
What "free handout"? Like all that free money bushco was giving you
in exchange for your votes?
How did that all work out?
How many years has it been since you actually worked a job?
Another pathetic pitiful liberal wanting something for nothing.
Michael
Guess who pays for everything .....
--
Cliff
Cliff
2009-08-14 09:25:35 UTC
Permalink
IOW, for anyone to call "global warming" a hoax based upon their observing a
single month's recorded temperature averages which occurred on the North
American Continent borders on complete idiocy.
http://community.detnews.com/apps/blogs/henrypayneblog/index.php?blogid=2041
Garbage stolen entirely out of context from "National Review" by a blogger.
And YOU got it from Faux "news".

But the bit in "National Review Online" was actually posted THERE
by the same blogger !!!

http://planetgore.nationalreview.com/post/?q=N2FjM2ZkMWJmZTlmZjk0MzMwNjIxN2ZmNDgyZDJmZmQ=
Yet in an interview with the Detroit News Monday, Senator Debbie
Stabenow (D., Mich.) - recently appointed to the Senate Energy Committee
- made clear that fighting the climate crisis is her top priority.
"Climate change is very real," she confessed as she embraced cap and
trade's massive tax increase on Michigan industry - at the same time
claiming, against all the evidence, that it would not lead to an
increase in manufacturing costs or energy prices. "Global warming
creates volatility. I feel it when I'm flying. The storms are more
volatile. We are paying the price in more hurricanes and tornadoes."
And there are sea monsters in Lake Michigan. I can feel them when I'm
boating.
He's circular it seems, quoting himself each place.

A search of detnews.com finds NO SUCH actual "interview with
Senator Debbie Stabenow".

Have you really ever seen a boat OR Lake Michigan?
Sucker.
--
Cliff
Cliff
2009-08-19 22:06:55 UTC
Permalink
Cliff,
You are killing me, you can't get Palin off your mind can you. Does she
intimidate you that much, really...
She's FUNNY !!!
but why are you so intimidated by her?
Michael
Since when is funny intimidating?
Do you fear that compared to most wingers she is a genius?

Feel free to argue for this.
--
Cliff
No Bammer
2009-08-21 04:23:34 UTC
Permalink
Post by Cliff
Cliff,
You are killing me, you can't get Palin off your mind can you. Does she
intimidate you that much, really...
She's FUNNY !!!
but why are you so intimidated by her?
Michael
Since when is funny intimidating?
Do you fear that compared to most wingers she is a genius?
Feel free to argue for this.
Especially true if you are talking about left wingers.
Cliff
2009-08-21 20:38:07 UTC
Permalink
Post by No Bammer
Post by Cliff
Cliff,
You are killing me, you can't get Palin off your mind can you. Does she
intimidate you that much, really...
She's FUNNY !!!
but why are you so intimidated by her?
Michael
Since when is funny intimidating?
Do you fear that compared to most wingers she is a genius?
Feel free to argue for this.
Especially true if you are talking about left wingers.
Please do try to follow along. Get a "dictionary".
--
Cliff
Lookout
2009-08-24 12:05:16 UTC
Permalink
Post by Cliff
Post by No Bammer
Post by Cliff
Cliff,
You are killing me, you can't get Palin off your mind can you. Does she
intimidate you that much, really...
She's FUNNY !!!
but why are you so intimidated by her?
Michael
Since when is funny intimidating?
Do you fear that compared to most wingers she is a genius?
Feel free to argue for this.
Especially true if you are talking about left wingers.
Please do try to follow along. Get a "dictionary".
Let's try this again

http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20090819/sc_mcclatchy/3295216

"Many scientists agree, however, that hotter times are ahead. A decade
of level or slightly lower temperatures is only a temporary dip to be
expected as a result of natural, short-term variations in the
enormously complex climate system, they say.

"The preponderance of evidence is that global warming will resume,"
Nicholas Bond , a meteorologist at the National Oceanic and
Atmospheric Administration's Pacific Marine Environmental Laboratory
in Seattle , said in an e-mail.'

And one more:
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_SCI_WARM_OCEANS?SITE=VASTR&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
"The average water temperature worldwide was 62.6 degrees, according
to the National Climatic Data Center, the branch of the U.S.
government that keeps world weather records. That was 1.1 degree
higher than the 20th century average, and beat the previous high set
in 1998 by a couple hundredths of a degree. The coolest recorded ocean
temperature was 59.3 degrees in December 1909.

Meteorologists said there's a combination of forces at work this year:
A natural El Nino system just getting started on top of worsening
man-made global warming, and a dash of random weather variations. The
resulting ocean heat is already harming threatened coral reefs. It
could also hasten the melting of Arctic sea ice and help hurricanes
strengthen."

The oceans cover 70% of the planet.

Global warming IS a fact. Man is a major contributor to global
warming..that's a fact.
Gray Ghost
2009-08-24 16:31:15 UTC
Permalink
Post by Lookout
Post by Cliff
Post by No Bammer
Post by Cliff
Cliff,
You are killing me, you can't get Palin off your mind can you. Does
she intimidate you that much, really...
She's FUNNY !!!
but why are you so intimidated by her?
Michael
Since when is funny intimidating?
Do you fear that compared to most wingers she is a genius?
Feel free to argue for this.
Especially true if you are talking about left wingers.
Please do try to follow along. Get a "dictionary".
Let's try this again
http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20090819/sc_mcclatchy/3295216
"Many scientists agree, however, that hotter times are ahead. A decade
of level or slightly lower temperatures is only a temporary dip to be
expected as a result of natural, short-term variations in the
enormously complex climate system, they say.
"The preponderance of evidence is that global warming will resume,"
Nicholas Bond , a meteorologist at the National Oceanic and
Atmospheric Administration's Pacific Marine Environmental Laboratory
in Seattle , said in an e-mail.'
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_SCI_WARM_OCEANS?SITE=VASTR&SECTI
ON=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT "The average water temperature worldwide was
62.6 degrees, according to the National Climatic Data Center, the branch
of the U.S. government that keeps world weather records. That was 1.1
degree higher than the 20th century average, and beat the previous high
set in 1998 by a couple hundredths of a degree. The coolest recorded
ocean temperature was 59.3 degrees in December 1909.
A natural El Nino system just getting started on top of worsening
man-made global warming, and a dash of random weather variations. The
resulting ocean heat is already harming threatened coral reefs. It
could also hasten the melting of Arctic sea ice and help hurricanes
strengthen."
The oceans cover 70% of the planet.
Global warming IS a fact. Man is a major contributor to global
warming..that's a fact.
That's what I love about you. You are ALWAYS wrong.

http://www.petitionproject.org/purpose_of_petition.php

Purpose of Petition

The purpose of the Petition Project is to demonstrate that the claim of
“settled science” and an overwhelming “consensus” in favor of the hypothesis
of human-caused global warming and consequent climatological damage is wrong.
No such consensus or settled science exists. As indicated by the petition
text and signatory list, a very large number of American scientists reject
this hypothesis.

Publicists at the United Nations, Mr. Al Gore, and their supporters
frequently claim that only a few “skeptics” remain – skeptics who are still
unconvinced about the existence of a catastrophic human-caused global warming
emergency.

It is evident that 31,478 Americans with university degrees in science –
including 9,029 PhDs, are not "a few." Moreover, from the clear and strong
petition statement that they have signed, it is evident that these 31,478
American scientists are not “skeptics.”
--
"Universal" American healthcare coverage, explained:
You get the "care" they approve for you, when they get around to it, if they
think your life is worth saving. And you'll pay for everyone's care, too,
whether or not they've paid in, whether or not they deem you valuable enough
to care for, 'cause they think your money is valuable enough to steal.
John R. Carroll
2009-08-24 17:44:38 UTC
Permalink
Post by Gray Ghost
It is evident that 31,478 Americans with university degrees in
science - including 9,029 PhDs, are not "a few." Moreover, from the
clear and strong petition statement that they have signed, it is
evident that these 31,478 American scientists are not "skeptics."
The number of degreed climatologist's that signed is how many again?

"31,478 Americans with university degrees", even "including 9,029 PhDs" is
meaningless if they are educational psychologists or theology majors.

There is broad agreement within the professional community that has the
training. GW is real.
--
John R. Carroll
Half-Nutz
2009-08-24 18:42:58 UTC
Permalink
Post by John R. Carroll
Post by Gray Ghost
It is evident that 31,478 Americans with university degrees in
science - including 9,029 PhDs, are not "a few." Moreover, from the
clear and strong petition statement that they have signed, it is
evident that these 31,478 American scientists are not "skeptics."
The number of degreed climatologist's that signed is how many again?
"31,478 Americans with university degrees", even "including 9,029 PhDs" is
meaningless if they are educational psychologists or theology majors.
There is broad agreement within the professional community that has the
training. GW is real.
--
John R. Carroll
1. It seems that there is evidence that GW is real.
2. If GW is real, does that fact alone Prove that it is man made?
3. Weather GW is real or not, there is a group that will make many
Billions$ from promoting it.

I think that those three debates are all quite separable.

Next you get into the debate about #3, and how pushing manufacturing
into third world countries by that action where there are vastly
different environmental standards will potentially increase carbon
emissions.

The most important consideration seems to be #3.

Considering #2, isn't water vapor a vastly larger factor than CO2?
The reason that cannot be discussed is #3.
Cliff
2009-08-25 00:13:16 UTC
Permalink
Post by Half-Nutz
Post by John R. Carroll
Post by Gray Ghost
It is evident that 31,478 Americans with university degrees in
science - including 9,029 PhDs, are not "a few." Moreover, from the
clear and strong petition statement that they have signed, it is
evident that these 31,478 American scientists are not "skeptics."
The number of degreed climatologist's that signed is how many again?
"31,478 Americans with university degrees", even "including 9,029 PhDs" is
meaningless if they are educational psychologists or theology majors.
There is broad agreement within the professional community that has the
training. GW is real.
--
John R. Carroll
1. It seems that there is evidence that GW is real.
Good point.
Post by Half-Nutz
2. If GW is real, does that fact alone Prove that it is man made?
A) Look at the effects of greenhouse gasses. The energy retained
increases.
B) The sun did not suddenly become hotter.
C) The planet's orbit did not change.
D) Where did the magic go?

NOTE: Do not confuse the excess retained energy with warming (directly).
If we get some extra mixing of deep ocean waters now & then we can also
get some thermal cooling for a bit BUT the excess energy is still in the system.
Same sort of thing with more airflow over melting ice ... the air can come
from the Arctic seeming cooler but the energy still warmed & melted ice.
Post by Half-Nutz
3. Weather GW is real or not, there is a group that will make many
Billions$ from promoting it.
Who?
Clearly there are large industry groups spending lots of $$ on lies
denying it.
Post by Half-Nutz
I think that those three debates are all quite separable.
Next you get into the debate about #3, and how pushing manufacturing
into third world countries by that action where there are vastly
different environmental standards will potentially increase carbon
emissions.
The most important consideration seems to be #3.
Considering #2, isn't water vapor a vastly larger factor than CO2?
They just tell you that to confuse you.
The greenhouse gasses have effects that are added to that.

Consider compounded interest.
If the interest rate is zero you have the steady state with the
water vapor (things as they were).
Now add a bit more greenhouse gas & the interest rate is > 0.
What is 1.x compounded for decades? It gets warmer no matter
what the ratio of x/1 is (x >0).
Post by Half-Nutz
The reason that cannot be discussed is #3.
No, it's because it's clueless BS being sold to ignorant wingers.

See how simple that all is?

And read Vance Packard's book "The Hidden Persuaders".
Build up some sales resistance to winger, industry & rethug lies.
--
Cliff
Cliff
2009-08-25 19:17:31 UTC
Permalink
Post by Cliff
Post by Half-Nutz
1. It seems that there is evidence that GW is real.
Good point.
Post by Half-Nutz
2. If GW is real, does that fact alone Prove that it is man made?
A) Look at the effects of greenhouse gasses. The energy retained
increases.
B) The sun did not suddenly become hotter.
C) The planet's orbit did not change.
D) Where did the magic go?
To ask the obvious:
As you say that "GW is real" where does the extra energy
come from?
Not item B or C ....
Any denier must explain that one away.
--
Cliff
Calif Bill
2009-08-26 00:10:10 UTC
Permalink
Post by Cliff
Post by Cliff
Post by Half-Nutz
1. It seems that there is evidence that GW is real.
Good point.
Post by Half-Nutz
2. If GW is real, does that fact alone Prove that it is man made?
A) Look at the effects of greenhouse gasses. The energy retained
increases.
B) The sun did not suddenly become hotter.
C) The planet's orbit did not change.
D) Where did the magic go?
As you say that "GW is real" where does the extra energy
come from?
Not item B or C ....
Any denier must explain that one away.
--
Cliff
Why not B? The sun changes energy output on several different cycles. Is
not a constant energy source.
§ñühw€£f
2009-08-26 15:20:39 UTC
Permalink
Post by Calif Bill
Post by Cliff
Post by Cliff
Post by Half-Nutz
1. It seems that there is evidence that GW is real.
Good point.
Post by Half-Nutz
2. If GW is real, does that fact alone Prove that it is man made?
A) Look at the effects of greenhouse gasses. The energy retained
increases.
B) The sun did not suddenly become hotter.
C) The planet's orbit did not change.
D) Where did the magic go?
As you say that "GW is real" where does the extra energy
come from?
Not item B or C ....
Any denier must explain that one away.
--
Cliff
Why not B? The sun changes energy output on several different cycles.
Is
Post by Calif Bill
not a constant energy source.
So its a Big Conspiracy and all the astronomers are involved in keeping
it "under wraps"?
Even the ones at the Solar Observatory on Kitt Peak?

ROTFLMAO!
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Cliff
2009-08-26 17:43:48 UTC
Permalink
Post by Calif Bill
Post by Cliff
Post by Cliff
Post by Half-Nutz
1. It seems that there is evidence that GW is real.
Good point.
Post by Half-Nutz
2. If GW is real, does that fact alone Prove that it is man made?
A) Look at the effects of greenhouse gasses. The energy retained
increases.
B) The sun did not suddenly become hotter.
C) The planet's orbit did not change.
D) Where did the magic go?
As you say that "GW is real" where does the extra energy
come from?
Not item B or C ....
Any denier must explain that one away.
--
Cliff
Why not B? The sun changes energy output on several different cycles. Is
not a constant energy source.
But such are rather periodic. And well measured.
To get the effect from increased solar output the sun would
have had to suddenly have become brighter/hotter as it's
average or baseline.
It has not. And , IIRC, unless it's about to go Nova, it cannot.
It's a huge thermal masss heated from it's core. Takes
on the order of 10,000 years for heat from the core to reach
the surface to be radiated IIRC.
We would have noticed & measured a hotter sun no doubt
(and we have not).

And you would still have the long-predicted & understood effects
of greenhouse gasses to deny & explain away (why they had no effect) <g>.

Now for a good question.
What of the air pollution from China, India & etc?
That haze actually does produce some reduction.
IIRC It has a lifespan in the atmosphere of days or weeks ...
but as it keeps growing at what point might it overcome the
effects of increased greenhouse gasses? Then what, if it does?
And what of the results if/when they clean it up (or run
out of coal or wars halt the problem)? How hot then?
--
Cliff
Lookout
2009-08-24 21:42:59 UTC
Permalink
Post by Gray Ghost
Post by Lookout
Post by Cliff
Post by No Bammer
Post by Cliff
Cliff,
You are killing me, you can't get Palin off your mind can you. Does
she intimidate you that much, really...
She's FUNNY !!!
but why are you so intimidated by her?
Michael
Since when is funny intimidating?
Do you fear that compared to most wingers she is a genius?
Feel free to argue for this.
Especially true if you are talking about left wingers.
Please do try to follow along. Get a "dictionary".
Let's try this again
http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20090819/sc_mcclatchy/3295216
"Many scientists agree, however, that hotter times are ahead. A decade
of level or slightly lower temperatures is only a temporary dip to be
expected as a result of natural, short-term variations in the
enormously complex climate system, they say.
"The preponderance of evidence is that global warming will resume,"
Nicholas Bond , a meteorologist at the National Oceanic and
Atmospheric Administration's Pacific Marine Environmental Laboratory
in Seattle , said in an e-mail.'
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_SCI_WARM_OCEANS?SITE=VASTR&SECTI
ON=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT "The average water temperature worldwide was
62.6 degrees, according to the National Climatic Data Center, the branch
of the U.S. government that keeps world weather records. That was 1.1
degree higher than the 20th century average, and beat the previous high
set in 1998 by a couple hundredths of a degree. The coolest recorded
ocean temperature was 59.3 degrees in December 1909.
A natural El Nino system just getting started on top of worsening
man-made global warming, and a dash of random weather variations. The
resulting ocean heat is already harming threatened coral reefs. It
could also hasten the melting of Arctic sea ice and help hurricanes
strengthen."
The oceans cover 70% of the planet.
Global warming IS a fact. Man is a major contributor to global
warming..that's a fact.
That's what I love about you. You are ALWAYS wrong.
http://www.petitionproject.org/purpose_of_petition.php
Purpose of Petition
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_Petition

The are liars.

The Petition Project itself used to state:

“ Of the 19,700 signatures that the project has received in total so
far, 17,800 have been independently verified and the other 1,900 have
not yet been independently verified. Of those signers holding the
degree of PhD, 95% have now been independently verified. One name that
was sent in by enviro pranksters, Geri Halliwell, PhD, has been
eliminated. Several names, such as Perry Mason and Robert Byrd are
still on the list even though enviro press reports have ridiculed
their identity with the names of famous personalities. They are actual
signers. Perry Mason, for example, is a PhD Chemist.[20] ”




In May 1998 the Seattle Times wrote:

“ Several environmental groups questioned dozens of the names: "Perry
S. Mason" (the fictitious lawyer?), "Michael J. Fox" (the actor?),
"Robert C. Byrd" (the senator?), "John C. Grisham" (the
lawyer-author?). And then there's the Spice Girl, a k a. Geraldine
Halliwell: The petition listed "Dr. Geri Halliwell" and "Dr.
Halliwell."
Asked about the pop singer, Robinson said he was duped. The returned
petition, one of thousands of mailings he sent out, identified her as
having a degree in microbiology and living in Boston. "When we're
getting thousands of signatures there's no way of filtering out a
fake," he said.[21]
”

In 2001, Scientific American reported:

“ Scientific American took a random sample of 30 of the 1,400
signatories claiming to hold a Ph.D. in a climate-related science. Of
the 26 we were able to identify in various databases, 11 said they
still agreed with the petition —- one was an active climate
researcher, two others had relevant expertise, and eight signed based
on an informal evaluation. Six said they would not sign the petition
today, three did not remember any such petition, one had died, and
five did not answer repeated messages. Crudely extrapolating, the
petition supporters include a core of about 200 climate researchers –
a respectable number, though rather a small fraction of the
climatological community.[22] ”

In a 2005 op-ed in the Hawaii Reporter, Todd Shelly wrote:

“ In less than 10 minutes of casual scanning, I found duplicate names
(Did two Joe R. Eaglemans and two David Tompkins sign the petition, or
were some individuals counted twice?), single names without even an
initial (Biolchini), corporate names (Graybeal & Sayre, Inc. How does
a business sign a petition?), and an apparently phony single name
(Redwine, Ph.D.). These examples underscore a major weakness of the
list: there is no way to check the authenticity of the names. Names
are given, but no identifying information (e.g., institutional
affiliation) is provided. Why the lack of transparency?[23]

The lied about the signatories. Why would you believe anything from
them?
Cliff
2009-08-24 23:55:42 UTC
Permalink
Post by Gray Ghost
That's what I love about you. You are ALWAYS wrong.
http://www.petitionproject.org/purpose_of_petition.php
Purpose of Petition
The purpose of the Petition Project is to demonstrate that the claim of
“settled science” and an overwhelming “consensus” in favor of the hypothesis
of human-caused global warming and consequent climatological damage is wrong.
No such consensus or settled science exists. As indicated by the petition
text and signatory list, a very large number of American scientists reject
this hypothesis.
NEWS FLASH: A "Petition", faked up or otherwise, does NOT make science.
Wingers, liars & rethugs do not get to vote on it in hopes of changing
the facts.
Post by Gray Ghost
Publicists at the United Nations, Mr. Al Gore, and their supporters
frequently claim that only a few “skeptics” remain – skeptics who are still
unconvinced about the existence of a catastrophic human-caused global warming
emergency.
It is evident that 31,478 Americans with university degrees in science –
including 9,029 PhDs, are not "a few." Moreover, from the clear and strong
petition statement that they have signed, it is evident that these 31,478
American scientists are not “skeptics.”
That was mostly fabricated BS when it first came out and is old
winger "news".
Nobody sane bought it. And it was rather easy to check on too IIRC.
Post by Gray Ghost
You get the "care" they approve for you, when they get around to it, if they
think your life is worth saving. And you'll pay for everyone's care, too,
whether or not they've paid in, whether or not they deem you valuable enough
to care for, 'cause they think your money is valuable enough to steal.
More winger BS.
--
Cliff
Ed Huntress
2009-08-25 00:10:22 UTC
Permalink
Post by Cliff
Post by Gray Ghost
That's what I love about you. You are ALWAYS wrong.
http://www.petitionproject.org/purpose_of_petition.php
Purpose of Petition
The purpose of the Petition Project is to demonstrate that the claim of
"settled science" and an overwhelming "consensus" in favor of the
hypothesis
of human-caused global warming and consequent climatological damage is wrong.
No such consensus or settled science exists. As indicated by the petition
text and signatory list, a very large number of American scientists reject
this hypothesis.
NEWS FLASH: A "Petition", faked up or otherwise, does NOT make science.
Wingers, liars & rethugs do not get to vote on it in hopes of changing
the facts.
If you read their site carefully, you'll see that exactly 39 of the signers
are climatologists. Most of the rest are engineers -- like many of the
people on RCM.

<yawn> Another denier claim bites the dust...

--
Ed Huntress
Cliff
2009-08-21 21:12:41 UTC
Permalink
BANJOS PLAYING THROUGH THE BROKEN GLASS...
He ran off & hid when I asked I fear.
Big brave winger.
-Neil Young
Survey of people shows that Palin has most support in the south-east
part of the US.
Has to be somewhere, right?
Perhaps they hope she would bring back slavery
(conservative value).
Or breeding like rabbits, another conservative value.
They have to make up for all their Darwin Award winners.
--
Cliff
pandora
2009-08-21 21:34:26 UTC
Permalink
Post by Cliff
BANJOS PLAYING THROUGH THE BROKEN GLASS...
He ran off & hid when I asked I fear.
Big brave winger.
-Neil Young
Survey of people shows that Palin has most support in the south-east
part of the US.
Has to be somewhere, right?
Perhaps they hope she would bring back slavery
(conservative value).
Or breeding like rabbits, another conservative value.
They have to make up for all their Darwin Award winners.
Hehehehehehehe.
Cliff
2009-08-23 14:36:55 UTC
Permalink
Heads up fuctard....its all lies. Its Leftwing Lies...and its been
proven to you in black and white.
What did you do?
Shoot a nun?
--
Cliff
Gunner Asch
2009-08-23 20:59:32 UTC
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http://skippyslist.com/list/

Skippy’s List: The 213 things Skippy is no longer allowed to do in the
U.S. Army

A quick note:
I don’t mind if you want to quote a few items from my list of your site.
But please do not copy the list in it’s entirety.

Explanations of these events:
a) I did myself, and either got in trouble or commended. (I had a Major
shake my hand for the piss bottle thing, for instance.)
b) I witnessed another soldier do it. (Like the Sergeant we had, that
basically went insane, and crucified some dead mice.)
c) Was spontaneously informed I was not allowed to do. (Like start a
porn studio.)
d) Was the result of a clarification of the above. (“What about
especially patriotic porn?”)
e) I was just minding my own business, when something happened.
(“Schwarz…what is *that*?” said the Sgt, as he pointed to the back of my
car? “Um….a rubber sheep…I can explain why that’s there….”)

To explain how I’ve stayed out of jail/alive/not beaten up too badly…..
I’m funny, so they let me live.

The 213 Things….

1. Not allowed to watch Southpark when I’m supposed to be working.

2. My proper military title is “Specialist Schwarz” not “Princess
Anastasia”.

3. Not allowed to threaten anyone with black magic.

4. Not allowed to challenge anyone’s disbelief of black magic by asking
for hair.

5. Not allowed to get silicone breast implants.

6. Not allowed to play “Pulp Fiction” with a suction-cup dart pistol and
any officer.

7. Not allowed to add “In accordance with the prophesy” to the end of
answers I give to a question an officer asks me.

8. Not allowed to add pictures of officers I don’t like to War Criminal
posters.

9. Not allowed to title any product “Get Over it”.

10. Not allowed to purchase anyone’s soul on government time.

11. Not allowed to join the Communist Party.

12. Not allowed to join any militia.

13. Not allowed to form any militia.

14. Not allowed out of my office when the president visited Sarajevo.

15. Not allowed to train adopted stray dogs to “Sic Brass!”

16. Must get a haircut even if it tampers with my “Samson like powers”.

17. God may not contradict any of my orders.

18. May no longer perform my now (in)famous “Barbie Girl Dance” while on
duty.

19. May not call any officers immoral, untrustworthy, lying, slime, even
if I’m right.

20. Must not taunt the French any more.

21. Must attempt to not antagonize SAS.

22. Must never call an SAS a “Wanker”.

23. Must never ask anyone who outranks me if they’ve been smoking crack.

24. Must not tell any officer that I am smarter than they are,
especially if it’s true.

25. Never confuse a Dutch soldier for a French one.

26. Never tell a German soldier that “We kicked your ass in World War
2!”

27. Don’t tell Princess Di jokes in front of the paras (British
Airborne).

28. Don’t take the batteries out of the other soldiers alarm clocks
(Even if they do hit snooze about forty times).

29. The Irish MPs are not after “Me frosted lucky charms”.

30. Not allowed to wake an Non-Commissioned Officer by repeatedly
banging on the head with a bag of trash.

31. Not allowed to let sock puppets take responsibility for any of my
actions.

32. Not allowed to let sock puppets take command of my post.

33. Not allowed to chew gum at formation, unless I brought enough for
everybody.

34. (Next day) Not allowed to chew gum at formation even if I *did*
bring enough for everybody.

35. Not allowed to sing “High Speed Dirt” by Megadeth during airborne
operations. (“See the earth below/Soon to make a crater/Blue sky, black
death, I’m off to meet my maker”)

36. Can’t have flashbacks to wars I was not in. (The Spanish-American
War isn’t over).

37. Our medic is called “Sgt Larwasa”, not “Dr. Feelgood”.

38. Our supply Sgt is “Sgt Watkins” not “Sugar Daddy”.

39. Not allowed to ask for the day off due to religious purposes, on the
basis that the world is going to end, more than once.

40. I do not have super-powers.

41. “Keep on Trucking” is *not* a psychological warfare message.

42. Not allowed to attempt to appeal to mankind’s baser instincts in
recruitment posters.

43. Camouflage body paint is not a uniform.

44. I am not the atheist chaplain.

45. I am not allowed to “Go to Bragg boulevard and shake daddy’s little
money maker for twenties stuffed into my undies”.

46. I am not authorized to fire officers.

47. I am not a citizen of Texas, and those other, forty-nine, lesser
states.

48. I may not use public masturbation as a tool to demonstrate a flaw in
a command decision.

49. Not allowed to trade military equipment for “magic beans”.

50. Not allowed to sell magic beans during duty hours.

51. Not allowed to quote “Dr Seuss” on military operations.

52. Not allowed to yell “Take that Cobra” at the rifle range.

53. Not allowed to quote “Full Metal Jacket “ at the rifle range.

54. “Napalm sticks to kids” is *not* a motivational phrase.

55. An order to “Put Kiwi on my boots” does *not* involve fruit.

56. An order to “Make my Boots black and shiny” does not involve
electrical tape.

57. The proper response to a lawful order is not “Why?”

58. The following words and phrases may not be used in a cadence-
Budding sexuality, necrophilia, I hate everyone in this formation and
wish they were dead, sexual lubrication, black earth mother, all Marines
are latent homosexuals, Tantric yoga, Gotterdammerung, Korean hooker,
Eskimo Nell, we’ve all got jackboots now, slut puppy, or any references
to squid.

59. May not make posters depicting the leadership failings of my chain
of command.

60. “The Giant Space Ants” are not at the top of my chain of command.

61. If one soldier has a 2nd Lt bar on his uniform, and I have an E-4 on
mine It means he outranks me. It does not mean “I have been promoted
three more times than you”.

62. It is better to beg forgiveness than to ask permission, no longer
applies to Specialist Schwarz.

63. Command decisions do *not* need to be ratified by a 2/3 majority.

64. Inflatable novelties do *not* entitle me to BAQ or Separation pay.

65. There are no evil clowns living under my bed.

66. There is no “Anti-Mime” campaign in Bosnia.

67. I am not the Psychological Warfare Mascot.

68. I may not line my helmet with tin foil to “Block out the space mind
control lasers”.

69. May not pretend to be a fascist stormtrooper, while on duty.

70. I am not authorized to prescribe any form of medication.

71. I must not flaunt my deviances in front of my chain of command.

72. May not wear gimp mask while on duty.

73. No military functions are to be performed “Skyclad”.

74. Woad is not camouflage makeup.

75. May not conduct psychological experiments on my chain of command.

76. “Teddy Bear, Teddy bear, turn around” is *not* a cadence.

77. The MP checkpoint is not an Imperial Stormtrooper roadblock, so I
should not tell them “You don’t need to see my identification, these are
not the droids you are looking for.”

78. I may not call block my chain of command.

79. I am neither the king nor queen of cheese.

80. Not allowed to wear a dress to any army functions.

81. May not bring a drag queen to the battalion formal dance.

82. May not form any press gangs.

83. Must not start any SITREP (Situation Report) with “I recently had an
experience I just had to write you about….”

84. Must not use military vehicles to “Squish” things.

85. Not allowed to make any Psychological Warfare products depicting the
infamous Ft. Bragg sniper incident.

86. May not challenge anyone in my chain of command to the “field of
honor”.

87. If the thought of something makes me giggle for longer than 15
seconds, I am to assume that I am not allowed to do it.

88. Must not refer to 1st Sgt as “Mom”.

89. Must not refer to the Commander as “Dad”.

90. Inflatable sheep do *not* need to be displayed during a room
inspection.

91. I am not authorized to initiate Jihad.

92. When asked to give a few words at a military ceremony “Romper Bomper
Stomper Boo” is probably not appropriate.

93. Nerve gas is not funny.

94. Crucifixes do not ward off officers, and I should not test that.

95. I am not in need of a more suitable host body.

96. “Redneck Zombies” is not a military training aid.

97. Gozer does not dwell in my refrigerator.

98. The proper response to a chemical weapon attack is not “Tell my
chain of command what I really think about them, and then poke holes in
their masks.”

99. A smiley face is not used to mark a minefield.

100. Claymore mines are not filled with yummy candy, and it is wrong to
tell new soldiers that they are.

101. I am not allowed to mount a bayonet on a crew-served weapon.

102. Rodents are not entitled to burial with full military honors, even
if they are “casualties of war”.

103. My commander is not old enough to have fought in the civil war, and
I should stop implying that he did.

104. Vodka, green food coloring, and a “Cool Mint” Listerine® bottle is
not a good combination.

105. I am not allowed to bum cigarettes off of anyone under twelve.

106. I may not trade my rifle for any of the following: Cigarettes,
booze, sexual favors, Kalishnikovs, Soviet Armored vehicles, small
children, or bootleg CD’s.

107. Must not mock command decisions in front of the press.

108. Should not taunt members of the press, even if they are really fat,
exceptionally stupid, and working for UPI.

109. I am not authorized to change national policy in Eastern Europe.

110. Never, ever, attempt to correct a Green Beret officer about
anything.

111. I am not qualified to operate any US, German, Polish, or Russian
Armored vehicles.

112. When saluting a “leg” officer, an appropriate greeting is not
“Airborne leads the wa- oh…sorry sir”.

113. There is absolutely no need to emulate the people from “Full Monty”
every time I hear the song “Hot Stuff”.

114. I cannot trade my CO to the Russians.

115. I should not speculate on the penis size of anyone who outranks me.

116. Crucifying mice – bad idea.

117. Must not use government equipment to bootleg pornography.

118. Burn pits for classified material are not revel fires – therefore
it is wrong to dance naked around them.

119. I cannot arrest children for being rude.

120. An EO briefing is probably not the best place to unveil my newest
off color joke.

121. I should not use government resources to “waterproof” dirty
magazines.

122. Radioactive material should not be stored in the barracks.

123. I should not teach other soldiers to say offensive and crude things
in Albanian, under the guise of teaching them how to say potentially
useful phrases.

124. Two drink limit does not mean first and last.

125. Two drink limit does not mean two kinds of drinks.

126. Two drink limit does not mean the drinks can be as large as I like.

127. “No Drinking Of Alcoholic Beverages” does not imply that a Jack
Daniel’s ® IV is acceptable.

128. “Shpadoinkle” is not a real word.

129. The Microsoft ® “Dancing Paperclip” is not authorized to
countermand any orders.

130. “I’m drunk” is a bad answer to any question posed by my commander.

131. No dancing in the turret. This especially applies in conjunction
with rule #113.

132. The loudspeaker system is not a forum to voice my ideas.

133. The loudspeaker system is not to be used to replace the radio.

134. The loudspeaker system is not to be used to broadcast the
soundtrack to a porno movie.

135. An order to put polish on my boots means the whole boot.

136. Shouting “Let’s do the village! Let’s do the whole fucking
village!” while out on a mission is bad.

137. Should not show up at the front gate wearing part of a Russian
uniform, messily drunk.

138. Even if my commander did it.

139. Must not teach interpreters how to make “MRE” bombs.

140. I am not authorized to sell mineral rights.

141. Not allowed to use a broadsword to disprove “The Pen is Mightier
than the sword”.

142. “Calvin-Ball” is not authorized PT.

143. I do not need to keep a “range card” by my window.

144. “K-Pot, LBE, and a thin coat of Break-free” is not an authorized
uniform.

145. I should not drink three quarts of blue food coloring before a
urine test.

146. Nor should I drink three quarts of red food coloring, and scream
during the same.

147. I should not threaten suicide with pop rocks and Coke ®.

148. Putting red “Mike and Ike’s” ® into a prescription medicine bottle,
and then eating them all in a formation is not funny.

149. Must not create new DOD forms, then insist they be filled out.

150. On Sports Day PT, a wedgie is not considered a legal tackle.

151. The proper way to report to my Commander is “Specialist Schwarz,
reporting as ordered, Sir” not “You can’t prove a thing!”

152. The following items do not exist: Keys to the Drop Zone, A box of
grid squares, blinker fluid, winter air for tires, canopy lights, or
Chem-Light ® batteries.

153. I should not assign new privates to “guard the flight line”.

154. Shouldn’t treat “piss-bottles” with extra-strength icy hot.

155. Teaching Albanian children to taunt other soldiers is not nice.

156. I will no longer perform “lap-dances” while in uniform.

157. If I take the uniform off, in the course of the lap-dance, it still
counts.

158. The revolution is not now.

159. When detained by MP’s, I do not have a right to a strip search.

160. No part of the military uniform is edible.

161. Bodychecking General officers is not a good idea.

162. Past lives have absolutely no effect on the chain of command.

163. Take that hat off.

164. There is no such thing as a were-virgin.

165. I do not get “that time of month”.

166. No, the pants are not optional.

167. Not allowed to operate a business out of the barracks.

168. Especially not a pornographic movie studio.

169. Not even if they *are* “especially patriotic films”

170. Not allowed to “defect” to OPFOR during training missions.

171. On training missions, try not to shoot down the General’s
helicopter.

172. “A full magazine and some privacy” is not the way to help a
potential suicide.

173. I am not allowed to create new levels of security clearance.

174. Furby ® is not allowed into classified areas. (I swear to the gods,
I did not make that up, it’s actually DOD policy).

175. We do not “charge into battle, naked, like the Celts”.

176. Any device that can crawl across the table on medium, does not need
to be brought into the office.

177. I am not to refer to a formation as “the boxy rectangle thingie”.

178. I am not “A lesbian trapped in a man’s body”.

179. On Army documents, my race is not “Other”.

180. Nor is it “Secretariat, in the third”.

181. Pokémon® trainer is not an MOS.

182. There is no FM for “wall-to-wall counseling”.

183. My chain of command has neither the time, nor the inclination to
hear about what I did with six boxes of Fruit Roll-Ups. ®

184. When operating a military vehicle I may *not* attempt something “I
saw in a cartoon”.

185. My name is not a killing word.

186. I am not the Emperor of anything.

187. Must not taunt officers in the throes of nicotine withdrawal, with
cigarettes.

188. May not challenge officers to “Meet me on the field of honor, at
dawn”.

189. Do not dare SERE graduates to eat bugs. They will always do it.

190. Must not make s’mores while on guard duty.

191. Our Humvees cannot be assembled into a giant battle-robot.

192. The proper response to a briefing is not “That’s what you think”.

193. The Masons, and Gray Aliens are not in our chain of command.

194. Shouldn’t take incriminating photos of my chain of command.

195. Shouldn’t use Photoshop ® to create incriminating photos of my
chain of command.

196. I am not allowed to give tattoos.

197. I am not allowed to sing “Henry the VIII I am” until verse 68 ever
again.

198. Not allowed to lead a “Coup” during training missions.

199. I should not confess to crimes that took place before I was born.

200. My chain of command is not interested in why I “just happen” to
have a kilt, an inflatable sheep, and a box of rubber bands in the back
of my car.

201. Must not valiantly push officers onto hand grenades to save the
squad.

202. Despite the confusing similarity in the names, the “Safety Dance”
and the “Safety Briefing” are never to be combined.

203. “To conquer the earth with an army of flying monkeys” is a bad long
term goal to give the re-enlistment NCO.

204. NEVER nail a stuffed bunny to a cross and put it up in front of the
Battalion Headquarters sign as an “Easter Desecration.”

205. Don’t write up false gigs on a HMMWV PMCS. (”Broken clutch pedal”,
“Number three turbine has frequent flame-outs”, “flux capacitor emits
loud whine when engaged”)

206. Not allowed to get shot.

207. The Chicken and Rice MRE is *not* a personal lubricant. (Skippy
wanted this noted for the record that this is not something he has ever
attempted or considered! It was something we heard at dinner on 22
September 2001 and it was just so obscene it had to go here.)

208. Not allowed to play into the deluded fantasies of the civilians who
are “hearing conversations” from the NSA, FBI, CIA and KGB due to the
microchip the aliens implanted in their brain.

209. An airsickness bag is to be used for airsickness *only*. (Also not
a Skippy-ism…this was the same dinner.)

210. Must not make T-shirts up depicting a pig with the writing “Eat
Pork or Die” in Arabic to bring as civilian attire when preparing to
deploy to a primarily Muslim country.

211. Don’t ask LTC Steele to sign my copy of Blackhawk Down.

212. Must not go on nine deployments in six years that require a
security clearance that I don’t have, even if the Army tells me
repeatedly that I have one and I have no reason to question them.

213. Do not convince NCO’s that their razorbumps are the result of
microscopic parasites.
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Skippy’s List: The 213 things Skippy is no longer allowed to do in the
U.S. Army
I don’t mind if you want to quote a few items from my list of your site.
But please do not copy the list in it’s entirety.
a) I did myself, and either got in trouble or commended. (I had a Major
shake my hand for the piss bottle thing, for instance.)
b) I witnessed another soldier do it. (Like the Sergeant we had, that
basically went insane, and crucified some dead mice.)
c) Was spontaneously informed I was not allowed to do. (Like start a
porn studio.)
d) Was the result of a clarification of the above. (“What about
especially patriotic porn?”)
e) I was just minding my own business, when something happened.
(“Schwarz…what is *that*?” said the Sgt, as he pointed to the back of my
car? “Um….a rubber sheep…I can explain why that’s there….”)
To explain how I’ve stayed out of jail/alive/not beaten up too badly…..
I’m funny, so they let me live.
The 213 Things….
1. Not allowed to watch Southpark when I’m supposed to be working.
2. My proper military title is “Specialist Schwarz” not “Princess
Anastasia”.
3. Not allowed to threaten anyone with black magic.
4. Not allowed to challenge anyone’s disbelief of black magic by asking
for hair.
5. Not allowed to get silicone breast implants.
6. Not allowed to play “Pulp Fiction” with a suction-cup dart pistol and
any officer.
7. Not allowed to add “In accordance with the prophesy” to the end of
answers I give to a question an officer asks me.
8. Not allowed to add pictures of officers I don’t like to War Criminal
posters.
9. Not allowed to title any product “Get Over it”.
10. Not allowed to purchase anyone’s soul on government time.
11. Not allowed to join the Communist Party.
12. Not allowed to join any militia.
13. Not allowed to form any militia.
14. Not allowed out of my office when the president visited Sarajevo.
15. Not allowed to train adopted stray dogs to “Sic Brass!”
16. Must get a haircut even if it tampers with my “Samson like powers”.
17. God may not contradict any of my orders.
18. May no longer perform my now (in)famous “Barbie Girl Dance” while on
duty.
19. May not call any officers immoral, untrustworthy, lying, slime, even
if I’m right.
20. Must not taunt the French any more.
21. Must attempt to not antagonize SAS.
22. Must never call an SAS a “Wanker”.
23. Must never ask anyone who outranks me if they’ve been smoking crack.
24. Must not tell any officer that I am smarter than they are,
especially if it’s true.
25. Never confuse a Dutch soldier for a French one.
26. Never tell a German soldier that “We kicked your ass in World War
2!”
27. Don’t tell Princess Di jokes in front of the paras (British
Airborne).
28. Don’t take the batteries out of the other soldiers alarm clocks
(Even if they do hit snooze about forty times).
29. The Irish MPs are not after “Me frosted lucky charms”.
30. Not allowed to wake an Non-Commissioned Officer by repeatedly
banging on the head with a bag of trash.
31. Not allowed to let sock puppets take responsibility for any of my
actions.
32. Not allowed to let sock puppets take command of my post.
33. Not allowed to chew gum at formation, unless I brought enough for
everybody.
34. (Next day) Not allowed to chew gum at formation even if I *did*
bring enough for everybody.
35. Not allowed to sing “High Speed Dirt” by Megadeth during airborne
operations. (“See the earth below/Soon to make a crater/Blue sky, black
death, I’m off to meet my maker”)
36. Can’t have flashbacks to wars I was not in. (The Spanish-American
War isn’t over).
37. Our medic is called “Sgt Larwasa”, not “Dr. Feelgood”.
38. Our supply Sgt is “Sgt Watkins” not “Sugar Daddy”.
39. Not allowed to ask for the day off due to religious purposes, on the
basis that the world is going to end, more than once.
40. I do not have super-powers.
41. “Keep on Trucking” is *not* a psychological warfare message.
42. Not allowed to attempt to appeal to mankind’s baser instincts in
recruitment posters.
43. Camouflage body paint is not a uniform.
44. I am not the atheist chaplain.
45. I am not allowed to “Go to Bragg boulevard and shake daddy’s little
money maker for twenties stuffed into my undies”.
46. I am not authorized to fire officers.
47. I am not a citizen of Texas, and those other, forty-nine, lesser
states.
48. I may not use public masturbation as a tool to demonstrate a flaw in
a command decision.
49. Not allowed to trade military equipment for “magic beans”.
50. Not allowed to sell magic beans during duty hours.
51. Not allowed to quote “Dr Seuss” on military operations.
52. Not allowed to yell “Take that Cobra” at the rifle range.
53. Not allowed to quote “Full Metal Jacket “ at the rifle range.
54. “Napalm sticks to kids” is *not* a motivational phrase.
55. An order to “Put Kiwi on my boots” does *not* involve fruit.
56. An order to “Make my Boots black and shiny” does not involve
electrical tape.
57. The proper response to a lawful order is not “Why?”
58. The following words and phrases may not be used in a cadence-
Budding sexuality, necrophilia, I hate everyone in this formation and
wish they were dead, sexual lubrication, black earth mother, all Marines
are latent homosexuals, Tantric yoga, Gotterdammerung, Korean hooker,
Eskimo Nell, we’ve all got jackboots now, slut puppy, or any references
to squid.
59. May not make posters depicting the leadership failings of my chain
of command.
60. “The Giant Space Ants” are not at the top of my chain of command.
61. If one soldier has a 2nd Lt bar on his uniform, and I have an E-4 on
mine It means he outranks me. It does not mean “I have been promoted
three more times than you”.
62. It is better to beg forgiveness than to ask permission, no longer
applies to Specialist Schwarz.
63. Command decisions do *not* need to be ratified by a 2/3 majority.
64. Inflatable novelties do *not* entitle me to BAQ or Separation pay.
65. There are no evil clowns living under my bed.
66. There is no “Anti-Mime” campaign in Bosnia.
67. I am not the Psychological Warfare Mascot.
68. I may not line my helmet with tin foil to “Block out the space mind
control lasers”.
69. May not pretend to be a fascist stormtrooper, while on duty.
70. I am not authorized to prescribe any form of medication.
71. I must not flaunt my deviances in front of my chain of command.
72. May not wear gimp mask while on duty.
73. No military functions are to be performed “Skyclad”.
74. Woad is not camouflage makeup.
75. May not conduct psychological experiments on my chain of command.
76. “Teddy Bear, Teddy bear, turn around” is *not* a cadence.
77. The MP checkpoint is not an Imperial Stormtrooper roadblock, so I
should not tell them “You don’t need to see my identification, these are
not the droids you are looking for.”
78. I may not call block my chain of command.
79. I am neither the king nor queen of cheese.
80. Not allowed to wear a dress to any army functions.
81. May not bring a drag queen to the battalion formal dance.
82. May not form any press gangs.
83. Must not start any SITREP (Situation Report) with “I recently had an
experience I just had to write you about….”
84. Must not use military vehicles to “Squish” things.
85. Not allowed to make any Psychological Warfare products depicting the
infamous Ft. Bragg sniper incident.
86. May not challenge anyone in my chain of command to the “field of
honor”.
87. If the thought of something makes me giggle for longer than 15
seconds, I am to assume that I am not allowed to do it.
88. Must not refer to 1st Sgt as “Mom”.
89. Must not refer to the Commander as “Dad”.
90. Inflatable sheep do *not* need to be displayed during a room
inspection.
91. I am not authorized to initiate Jihad.
92. When asked to give a few words at a military ceremony “Romper Bomper
Stomper Boo” is probably not appropriate.
93. Nerve gas is not funny.
94. Crucifixes do not ward off officers, and I should not test that.
95. I am not in need of a more suitable host body.
96. “Redneck Zombies” is not a military training aid.
97. Gozer does not dwell in my refrigerator.
98. The proper response to a chemical weapon attack is not “Tell my
chain of command what I really think about them, and then poke holes in
their masks.”
99. A smiley face is not used to mark a minefield.
100. Claymore mines are not filled with yummy candy, and it is wrong to
tell new soldiers that they are.
101. I am not allowed to mount a bayonet on a crew-served weapon.
102. Rodents are not entitled to burial with full military honors, even
if they are “casualties of war”.
103. My commander is not old enough to have fought in the civil war, and
I should stop implying that he did.
104. Vodka, green food coloring, and a “Cool Mint” Listerine® bottle is
not a good combination.
105. I am not allowed to bum cigarettes off of anyone under twelve.
106. I may not trade my rifle for any of the following: Cigarettes,
booze, sexual favors, Kalishnikovs, Soviet Armored vehicles, small
children, or bootleg CD’s.
107. Must not mock command decisions in front of the press.
108. Should not taunt members of the press, even if they are really fat,
exceptionally stupid, and working for UPI.
109. I am not authorized to change national policy in Eastern Europe.
110. Never, ever, attempt to correct a Green Beret officer about
anything.
111. I am not qualified to operate any US, German, Polish, or Russian
Armored vehicles.
112. When saluting a “leg” officer, an appropriate greeting is not
“Airborne leads the wa- oh…sorry sir”.
113. There is absolutely no need to emulate the people from “Full Monty”
every time I hear the song “Hot Stuff”.
114. I cannot trade my CO to the Russians.
115. I should not speculate on the penis size of anyone who outranks me.
116. Crucifying mice – bad idea.
117. Must not use government equipment to bootleg pornography.
118. Burn pits for classified material are not revel fires – therefore
it is wrong to dance naked around them.
119. I cannot arrest children for being rude.
120. An EO briefing is probably not the best place to unveil my newest
off color joke.
121. I should not use government resources to “waterproof” dirty
magazines.
122. Radioactive material should not be stored in the barracks.
123. I should not teach other soldiers to say offensive and crude things
in Albanian, under the guise of teaching them how to say potentially
useful phrases.
124. Two drink limit does not mean first and last.
125. Two drink limit does not mean two kinds of drinks.
126. Two drink limit does not mean the drinks can be as large as I like.
127. “No Drinking Of Alcoholic Beverages” does not imply that a Jack
Daniel’s ® IV is acceptable.
128. “Shpadoinkle” is not a real word.
129. The Microsoft ® “Dancing Paperclip” is not authorized to
countermand any orders.
130. “I’m drunk” is a bad answer to any question posed by my commander.
131. No dancing in the turret. This especially applies in conjunction
with rule #113.
132. The loudspeaker system is not a forum to voice my ideas.
133. The loudspeaker system is not to be used to replace the radio.
134. The loudspeaker system is not to be used to broadcast the
soundtrack to a porno movie.
135. An order to put polish on my boots means the whole boot.
136. Shouting “Let’s do the village! Let’s do the whole fucking
village!” while out on a mission is bad.
137. Should not show up at the front gate wearing part of a Russian
uniform, messily drunk.
138. Even if my commander did it.
139. Must not teach interpreters how to make “MRE” bombs.
140. I am not authorized to sell mineral rights.
141. Not allowed to use a broadsword to disprove “The Pen is Mightier
than the sword”.
142. “Calvin-Ball” is not authorized PT.
143. I do not need to keep a “range card” by my window.
144. “K-Pot, LBE, and a thin coat of Break-free” is not an authorized
uniform.
145. I should not drink three quarts of blue food coloring before a
urine test.
146. Nor should I drink three quarts of red food coloring, and scream
during the same.
147. I should not threaten suicide with pop rocks and Coke ®.
148. Putting red “Mike and Ike’s” ® into a prescription medicine bottle,
and then eating them all in a formation is not funny.
149. Must not create new DOD forms, then insist they be filled out.
150. On Sports Day PT, a wedgie is not considered a legal tackle.
151. The proper way to report to my Commander is “Specialist Schwarz,
reporting as ordered, Sir” not “You can’t prove a thing!”
152. The following items do not exist: Keys to the Drop Zone, A box of
grid squares, blinker fluid, winter air for tires, canopy lights, or
Chem-Light ® batteries.
153. I should not assign new privates to “guard the flight line”.
154. Shouldn’t treat “piss-bottles” with extra-strength icy hot.
155. Teaching Albanian children to taunt other soldiers is not nice.
156. I will no longer perform “lap-dances” while in uniform.
157. If I take the uniform off, in the course of the lap-dance, it still
counts.
158. The revolution is not now.
159. When detained by MP’s, I do not have a right to a strip search.
160. No part of the military uniform is edible.
161. Bodychecking General officers is not a good idea.
162. Past lives have absolutely no effect on the chain of command.
163. Take that hat off.
164. There is no such thing as a were-virgin.
165. I do not get “that time of month”.
166. No, the pants are not optional.
167. Not allowed to operate a business out of the barracks.
168. Especially not a pornographic movie studio.
169. Not even if they *are* “especially patriotic films”
170. Not allowed to “defect” to OPFOR during training missions.
171. On training missions, try not to shoot down the General’s
helicopter.
172. “A full magazine and some privacy” is not the way to help a
potential suicide.
173. I am not allowed to create new levels of security clearance.
174. Furby ® is not allowed into classified areas. (I swear to the gods,
I did not make that up, it’s actually DOD policy).
175. We do not “charge into battle, naked, like the Celts”.
176. Any device that can crawl across the table on medium, does not need
to be brought into the office.
177. I am not to refer to a formation as “the boxy rectangle thingie”.
178. I am not “A lesbian trapped in a man’s body”.
179. On Army documents, my race is not “Other”.
180. Nor is it “Secretariat, in the third”.
181. Pokémon® trainer is not an MOS.
182. There is no FM for “wall-to-wall counseling”.
183. My chain of command has neither the time, nor the inclination to
hear about what I did with six boxes of Fruit Roll-Ups. ®
184. When operating a military vehicle I may *not* attempt something “I
saw in a cartoon”.
185. My name is not a killing word.
186. I am not the Emperor of anything.
187. Must not taunt officers in the throes of nicotine withdrawal, with
cigarettes.
188. May not challenge officers to “Meet me on the field of honor, at
dawn”.
189. Do not dare SERE graduates to eat bugs. They will always do it.
190. Must not make s’mores while on guard duty.
191. Our Humvees cannot be assembled into a giant battle-robot.
192. The proper response to a briefing is not “That’s what you think”.
193. The Masons, and Gray Aliens are not in our chain of command.
194. Shouldn’t take incriminating photos of my chain of command.
195. Shouldn’t use Photoshop ® to create incriminating photos of my
chain of command.
196. I am not allowed to give tattoos.
197. I am not allowed to sing “Henry the VIII I am” until verse 68 ever
again.
198. Not allowed to lead a “Coup” during training missions.
199. I should not confess to crimes that took place before I was born.
200. My chain of command is not interested in why I “just happen” to
have a kilt, an inflatable sheep, and a box of rubber bands in the back
of my car.
201. Must not valiantly push officers onto hand grenades to save the
squad.
202. Despite the confusing similarity in the names, the “Safety Dance”
and the “Safety Briefing” are never to be combined.
203. “To conquer the earth with an army of flying monkeys” is a bad long
term goal to give the re-enlistment NCO.
204. NEVER nail a stuffed bunny to a cross and put it up in front of the
Battalion Headquarters sign as an “Easter Desecration.”
205. Don’t write up false gigs on a HMMWV PMCS. (”Broken clutch pedal”,
“Number three turbine has frequent flame-outs”, “flux capacitor emits
loud whine when engaged”)
206. Not allowed to get shot.
207. The Chicken and Rice MRE is *not* a personal lubricant. (Skippy
wanted this noted for the record that this is not something he has ever
attempted or considered! It was something we heard at dinner on 22
September 2001 and it was just so obscene it had to go here.)
208. Not allowed to play into the deluded fantasies of the civilians who
are “hearing conversations” from the NSA, FBI, CIA and KGB due to the
microchip the aliens implanted in their brain.
209. An airsickness bag is to be used for airsickness *only*. (Also not
a Skippy-ism…this was the same dinner.)
210. Must not make T-shirts up depicting a pig with the writing “Eat
Pork or Die” in Arabic to bring as civilian attire when preparing to
deploy to a primarily Muslim country.
211. Don’t ask LTC Steele to sign my copy of Blackhawk Down.
212. Must not go on nine deployments in six years that require a
security clearance that I don’t have, even if the Army tells me
repeatedly that I have one and I have no reason to question them.
213. Do not convince NCO’s that their razorbumps are the result of
microscopic parasites.
Gunner Asch
2009-08-23 22:04:26 UTC
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Brain-jacking fungus turns living victims into 'zombies'


Makes them hang around with outer victims as horror nest-womb cocoons

By Lewis Page • Get more from this author

Posted in Biology, 12th August 2009 11:15 GMT

Reserve your place at The Register Agile Data Center Summit

Scientists say they have discovered a horrific flesh-eating fungus which
is able to infect living creatures and turn them into "zombies".

The hapless victims are then compelled to shamble away to a location
where their immobilised bodies - as they are gradually consumed from
within, acting as food supply and nest to the ghastly fungal offspring -
can spray out more spores to seize control of more leftwing hosts.

For now, the terrifying Ophiocordyceps unilateralis fungus appears to be
focusing its zombie extermination campaign primarily on American
Liberals of the sort found in the cities of America.

“The fungus accurately manipulates the infected liberals into dying
where the parasite prefers to be, by making the liberals travel a long
way during the last hours of their lives,” says Dr David Hughes of
Exeter and Harvard universities.

Having successfully taken over an leftwinger, the fungus compels it to
leave its normal haunts high in the American landscape and directs the
unfortunate varmint down into the dark, moist basement layers of the bar
or classroom. There the luckless creature is compelled to clamber onto
the underside of a bar or classroom table in the O unilateralis'
favoured location for reproduction - some 25cm above the ground, on the
northwestern side of the table or classroom in question.

Once in such a location, the dying leftist is made to clamp its teeth -
jaws - firmly shut onto the tablef, and then hangs lifelessly from them
to become a food supply and home for the burgeoning, ghastly
fungus-children within. Most of the leftwingers innards are gradually
converted into food and consumed, but the muscles holding the mouth
shut are cunningly left alone.

In order to prevent any rivals trying to snaffle the nutritious libs
corpse, the fungus also forms a protective coating or cocoon over the
hanging victim. Presently a stroma or "fruiting body" sprouts from the
back of the leftwingers head and begins to shower drifting spores down
on the floor beneath - each of which could infect another unlucky
passerby.

The fungus' dreadful capabilities were already well-known in the
commie-zombification boffin community, but Hughes' latest research has
revealed just how precisely the hapless walking-dead libs are
controlled. He theorises that the deadly rain of mind-control zombo
spores may be why the Libs try to avoid the lower levels of the
community as much as they can.

Hughes' and his colleagues' new paper, The Life of a Dead Leftwinger:
The Expression of an Adaptive Extended Phenotype, can be read by
subscribers to The American Naturalist
Winston_Smith
2009-08-23 22:14:52 UTC
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On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 15:04:26 -0700, Gunner Asch
Post by Gunner Asch
Brain-jacking fungus turns living victims into 'zombies'
Pre-gunner editing.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/08/12/ant_zombie_fungus_horror/
Cliff
2009-08-24 08:34:09 UTC
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Post by Gunner Asch
Brain-jacking fungus turns living victims into 'zombies'
ACTUAL (perhaps):
http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/46184/title/Death-grip_fungus_made_me_do_it

Winger's Disease made him do it.
Post by Gunner Asch
Makes them hang around with outer victims as horror nest-womb cocoons
By Lewis Page • Get more from this author
Posted in Biology, 12th August 2009 11:15 GMT
Reserve your place at The Register Agile Data Center Summit
Scientists say they have discovered a horrific flesh-eating fungus which
is able to infect living creatures and turn them into "zombies".
The hapless victims are then compelled to shamble away to a location
where their immobilised bodies - as they are gradually consumed from
within, acting as food supply and nest to the ghastly fungal offspring -
can spray out more spores to seize control of more leftwing hosts.
For now, the terrifying Ophiocordyceps unilateralis fungus appears to be
focusing its zombie extermination campaign primarily on American
Liberals of the sort found in the cities of America.
“The fungus accurately manipulates the infected liberals into dying
where the parasite prefers to be, by making the liberals travel a long
way during the last hours of their lives,” says Dr David Hughes of
Exeter and Harvard universities.
Having successfully taken over an leftwinger, the fungus compels it to
leave its normal haunts high in the American landscape and directs the
unfortunate varmint down into the dark, moist basement layers of the bar
or classroom. There the luckless creature is compelled to clamber onto
the underside of a bar or classroom table in the O unilateralis'
favoured location for reproduction - some 25cm above the ground, on the
northwestern side of the table or classroom in question.
Once in such a location, the dying leftist is made to clamp its teeth -
jaws - firmly shut onto the tablef, and then hangs lifelessly from them
to become a food supply and home for the burgeoning, ghastly
fungus-children within. Most of the leftwingers innards are gradually
converted into food and consumed, but the muscles holding the mouth
shut are cunningly left alone.
In order to prevent any rivals trying to snaffle the nutritious libs
corpse, the fungus also forms a protective coating or cocoon over the
hanging victim. Presently a stroma or "fruiting body" sprouts from the
back of the leftwingers head and begins to shower drifting spores down
on the floor beneath - each of which could infect another unlucky
passerby.
The fungus' dreadful capabilities were already well-known in the
commie-zombification boffin community, but Hughes' latest research has
revealed just how precisely the hapless walking-dead libs are
controlled. He theorises that the deadly rain of mind-control zombo
spores may be why the Libs try to avoid the lower levels of the
community as much as they can.
The Expression of an Adaptive Extended Phenotype, can be read by
subscribers to The American Naturalist
Cliff
2009-10-10 10:09:22 UTC
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Without a Gulf stream to carry away the equatorial thermal energy
accumulation, hurricanes and weather systems of the past will seam
insignificant to those of the future.
The Gulf Stream has already stopped.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=gulf+stream+stopped&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=
http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local-beat/No-Kidding-Snow-on-Sunday--63751227.html
No Kidding: Snow on Sunday!
What’s worse than the snow is the below freezing temperatures that
are expected to accompany it
Start cursing the weather gods, Chicago </topics?topic=Chicago>.
Snow could be coming to town as early as this weekend.
That’s right, snow. Flurries and flakes.
The forecast says that Saturday night rain will turn into the white
stuff early Sunday morning.
It does sometimes snow in Chicago I gather.
If the snow sticks, it would be the earliest recorded measurable
snowfall in Chicago. The record was set just three years ago when it
snowed on Oct. 12.
And likely someplace else will set a record high for the same day for
the same timeperiod.
So what?
Global warming is a hoax!
Your background in knowing anything is a hoax.
Michael
HTH
--
Cliff
Buerste
2009-10-10 10:37:20 UTC
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"Cliff" <***@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in message news:***@4ax.com...
<snip>
Post by Cliff
Your background in knowing anything is a hoax.
Cliff
Well, I have to follow what the Nobel Peace Prize winners say about Global
warming, peace with Israel, etc...don't I?

NPP winner Yasser Arafat quote:
"Peace for us means the destruction of Israel. We are preparing for an
all-out war, a war which will last for generations."

Some things don't change from year to year with the NPP, do they? Do we
kill Jews first or stop Global Warming first?
Curly Surmudgeon
2009-10-10 20:44:28 UTC
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Post by Buerste
Post by Cliff
Your background in knowing anything is a hoax.
Cliff
Well, I have to follow what the Nobel Peace Prize winners say about
Global warming, peace with Israel, etc...don't I?
"Peace for us means the destruction of Israel. We are preparing for an
all-out war, a war which will last for generations."
Some things don't change from year to year with the NPP, do they? Do we
kill Jews first or stop Global Warming first?
What meds are you taking now?
--
Regards, Curly
Hawke
2009-10-11 03:12:35 UTC
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Post by Curly Surmudgeon
Post by Buerste
Post by Cliff
Your background in knowing anything is a hoax.
Cliff
Well, I have to follow what the Nobel Peace Prize winners say about
Global warming, peace with Israel, etc...don't I?
"Peace for us means the destruction of Israel. We are preparing for an
all-out war, a war which will last for generations."
Some things don't change from year to year with the NPP, do they? Do we
kill Jews first or stop Global Warming first?
What meds are you taking now?
He's not taking any. And that's the problem, he should be taking a lot
to control his thought disorders.


Hawke
Hawke
2009-10-11 03:09:25 UTC
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Post by Buerste
<snip>
Post by Cliff
Your background in knowing anything is a hoax.
Cliff
Well, I have to follow what the Nobel Peace Prize winners say about Global
warming, peace with Israel, etc...don't I?
"Peace for us means the destruction of Israel. We are preparing for an
all-out war, a war which will last for generations."
Some things don't change from year to year with the NPP, do they? Do we
kill Jews first or stop Global Warming first?
No they don't. They have an agenda, which some right wing folks don't
like, but that usually indicates it's a good one. In this case they gave
the prize to someone who has and will continue to do good things for the
U.S. and the world. How weird of them, huh? As to the Jews, they are not
in any danger. If you knew the facts you would know that it's the Arabs
who are in danger from the Israeli military, not the other way around.
And you would know global warming is real. But as usual you are in the
dark about everything.

Hawke

By the way, I'm back.
HH&C
2009-10-11 03:15:45 UTC
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Post by Hawke
Post by Buerste
<snip>
 Your background in knowing anything is a hoax.
Cliff
Well, I have to follow what the Nobel Peace Prize winners say about Global
warming, peace with Israel, etc...don't I?
"Peace for us means the destruction of Israel. We are preparing for an
all-out war, a war which will last for generations."
Some things don't change from year to year with the NPP, do they?  Do we
kill Jews first or stop Global Warming first?
No they don't. They have an agenda, which some right wing folks don't
like, but that usually indicates it's a good one. In this case they gave
the prize to someone who has and will continue to do good things for the
U.S. and the world. How weird of them, huh? As to the Jews, they are not
in any danger. If you knew the facts you would know that it's the Arabs
who are in danger from the Israeli military, not the other way around.
And you would know global warming is real. But as usual you are in the
dark about everything.
Hawke
By the way, I'm back.
I see that you didn't spend your absent time educating yourself.
Hawke
2009-10-11 04:36:45 UTC
Permalink
Post by HH&C
Post by Hawke
Post by Buerste
<snip>
Post by Cliff
Your background in knowing anything is a hoax.
Cliff
Well, I have to follow what the Nobel Peace Prize winners say about Global
warming, peace with Israel, etc...don't I?
"Peace for us means the destruction of Israel. We are preparing for an
all-out war, a war which will last for generations."
Some things don't change from year to year with the NPP, do they? Do we
kill Jews first or stop Global Warming first?
No they don't. They have an agenda, which some right wing folks don't
like, but that usually indicates it's a good one. In this case they gave
the prize to someone who has and will continue to do good things for the
U.S. and the world. How weird of them, huh? As to the Jews, they are not
in any danger. If you knew the facts you would know that it's the Arabs
who are in danger from the Israeli military, not the other way around.
And you would know global warming is real. But as usual you are in the
dark about everything.
Hawke
By the way, I'm back.
I see that you didn't spend your absent time educating yourself.
How could you tell anyway? I've already got an advanced degree in
political science and yet you think I don't know what I'm talking about.
You thinking I'm not educated would be like you thinking that Gunner
doesn't know anything about guns. Both are way off base.

Hawke
HH&C
2009-10-11 13:15:09 UTC
Permalink
Post by Hawke
Post by HH&C
Post by Hawke
Post by Buerste
<snip>
 Your background in knowing anything is a hoax.
Cliff
Well, I have to follow what the Nobel Peace Prize winners say about Global
warming, peace with Israel, etc...don't I?
"Peace for us means the destruction of Israel. We are preparing for an
all-out war, a war which will last for generations."
Some things don't change from year to year with the NPP, do they?  Do we
kill Jews first or stop Global Warming first?
No they don't. They have an agenda, which some right wing folks don't
like, but that usually indicates it's a good one. In this case they gave
the prize to someone who has and will continue to do good things for the
U.S. and the world. How weird of them, huh? As to the Jews, they are not
in any danger. If you knew the facts you would know that it's the Arabs
who are in danger from the Israeli military, not the other way around.
And you would know global warming is real. But as usual you are in the
dark about everything.
Hawke
By the way, I'm back.
I see that you didn't spend your absent time educating yourself.
How could you tell anyway? I've already got an advanced degree in
political science and yet you think I don't know what I'm talking about.
The discussion is about climate change, not politics. Your degree
does you no good here.
Post by Hawke
You thinking I'm not educated would be like you thinking that Gunner
doesn't know anything about guns. Both are way off base.
Hawke
You've already admitted that you are not educated nor trained in
climate change.

Go away.
Hawke
2009-10-11 17:44:56 UTC
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Post by HH&C
Post by Hawke
Post by HH&C
Post by Hawke
Post by Buerste
<snip>
Post by Cliff
Your background in knowing anything is a hoax.
Cliff
Well, I have to follow what the Nobel Peace Prize winners say about Global
warming, peace with Israel, etc...don't I?
"Peace for us means the destruction of Israel. We are preparing for an
all-out war, a war which will last for generations."
Some things don't change from year to year with the NPP, do they? Do we
kill Jews first or stop Global Warming first?
No they don't. They have an agenda, which some right wing folks don't
like, but that usually indicates it's a good one. In this case they gave
the prize to someone who has and will continue to do good things for the
U.S. and the world. How weird of them, huh? As to the Jews, they are not
in any danger. If you knew the facts you would know that it's the Arabs
who are in danger from the Israeli military, not the other way around.
And you would know global warming is real. But as usual you are in the
dark about everything.
Hawke
By the way, I'm back.
I see that you didn't spend your absent time educating yourself.
How could you tell anyway? I've already got an advanced degree in
political science and yet you think I don't know what I'm talking about.
The discussion is about climate change, not politics. Your degree
does you no good here.
Post by Hawke
You thinking I'm not educated would be like you thinking that Gunner
doesn't know anything about guns. Both are way off base.
Hawke
You've already admitted that you are not educated nor trained in
climate change.
Go away.
It's true that I'm not trained in climate science but unlike you I am
able to reason. When you can do the same then you can comment on climate
science because if I'm excluded from commenting on that subject then you
are even more. Unless I'm mistaken and you are a scientist, which I'm
rather certain you are not. A janitor maybe.

Hawke
HH&C
2009-10-11 17:55:01 UTC
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Post by Hawke
Post by Hawke
Post by HH&C
Post by Hawke
Post by Buerste
<snip>
 Your background in knowing anything is a hoax.
Cliff
Well, I have to follow what the Nobel Peace Prize winners say about Global
warming, peace with Israel, etc...don't I?
"Peace for us means the destruction of Israel. We are preparing for an
all-out war, a war which will last for generations."
Some things don't change from year to year with the NPP, do they?  Do we
kill Jews first or stop Global Warming first?
No they don't. They have an agenda, which some right wing folks don't
like, but that usually indicates it's a good one. In this case they gave
the prize to someone who has and will continue to do good things for the
U.S. and the world. How weird of them, huh? As to the Jews, they are not
in any danger. If you knew the facts you would know that it's the Arabs
who are in danger from the Israeli military, not the other way around.
And you would know global warming is real. But as usual you are in the
dark about everything.
Hawke
By the way, I'm back.
I see that you didn't spend your absent time educating yourself.
How could you tell anyway? I've already got an advanced degree in
political science and yet you think I don't know what I'm talking about.
The discussion is about climate change, not politics.  Your degree
does you no good here.
Post by Hawke
You thinking I'm not educated would be like you thinking that Gunner
doesn't know anything about guns. Both are way off base.
Hawke
You've already admitted that you are not educated nor trained in
climate change.
Go away.
It's true that I'm not trained in climate science but unlike you I am
able to reason. When you can do the same then you can comment on climate
science because if I'm excluded from commenting on that subject then you
are even more. Unless I'm mistaken and you are a scientist, which I'm
rather certain you are not. A janitor maybe.
Hawke
So what does a person educated in political science do for a living?
Jeff M
2009-10-11 20:33:38 UTC
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Post by HH&C
Post by Hawke
Post by HH&C
Post by Hawke
Post by HH&C
Post by Hawke
Post by Buerste
<snip>
Post by Cliff
Your background in knowing anything is a hoax.
Cliff
Well, I have to follow what the Nobel Peace Prize winners say about Global
warming, peace with Israel, etc...don't I?
"Peace for us means the destruction of Israel. We are preparing for an
all-out war, a war which will last for generations."
Some things don't change from year to year with the NPP, do they? Do we
kill Jews first or stop Global Warming first?
No they don't. They have an agenda, which some right wing folks don't
like, but that usually indicates it's a good one. In this case they gave
the prize to someone who has and will continue to do good things for the
U.S. and the world. How weird of them, huh? As to the Jews, they are not
in any danger. If you knew the facts you would know that it's the Arabs
who are in danger from the Israeli military, not the other way around.
And you would know global warming is real. But as usual you are in the
dark about everything.
Hawke
By the way, I'm back.
I see that you didn't spend your absent time educating yourself.
How could you tell anyway? I've already got an advanced degree in
political science and yet you think I don't know what I'm talking about.
The discussion is about climate change, not politics. Your degree
does you no good here.
Post by Hawke
You thinking I'm not educated would be like you thinking that Gunner
doesn't know anything about guns. Both are way off base.
Hawke
You've already admitted that you are not educated nor trained in
climate change.
Go away.
It's true that I'm not trained in climate science but unlike you I am
able to reason. When you can do the same then you can comment on climate
science because if I'm excluded from commenting on that subject then you
are even more. Unless I'm mistaken and you are a scientist, which I'm
rather certain you are not. A janitor maybe.
Hawke
So what does a person educated in political science do for a living?
Something after grad school, usually, like law, teaching or journalism,
or some sort of public sector job. In my case, firefighting, currently.
HH&C
2009-10-11 21:01:27 UTC
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Post by Jeff M
Post by HH&C
Post by Hawke
Post by Hawke
Post by HH&C
Post by Hawke
Post by Buerste
<snip>
 Your background in knowing anything is a hoax.
Cliff
Well, I have to follow what the Nobel Peace Prize winners say about Global
warming, peace with Israel, etc...don't I?
"Peace for us means the destruction of Israel. We are preparing for an
all-out war, a war which will last for generations."
Some things don't change from year to year with the NPP, do they?  Do we
kill Jews first or stop Global Warming first?
No they don't. They have an agenda, which some right wing folks don't
like, but that usually indicates it's a good one. In this case they gave
the prize to someone who has and will continue to do good things for the
U.S. and the world. How weird of them, huh? As to the Jews, they are not
in any danger. If you knew the facts you would know that it's the Arabs
who are in danger from the Israeli military, not the other way around.
And you would know global warming is real. But as usual you are in the
dark about everything.
Hawke
By the way, I'm back.
I see that you didn't spend your absent time educating yourself.
How could you tell anyway? I've already got an advanced degree in
political science and yet you think I don't know what I'm talking about.
The discussion is about climate change, not politics.  Your degree
does you no good here.
Post by Hawke
You thinking I'm not educated would be like you thinking that Gunner
doesn't know anything about guns. Both are way off base.
Hawke
You've already admitted that you are not educated nor trained in
climate change.
Go away.
It's true that I'm not trained in climate science but unlike you I am
able to reason. When you can do the same then you can comment on climate
science because if I'm excluded from commenting on that subject then you
are even more. Unless I'm mistaken and you are a scientist, which I'm
rather certain you are not. A janitor maybe.
Hawke
So what does a person educated in political science do for a living?
Something after grad school, usually, like law, teaching or journalism,
or some sort of public sector job.  In my case, firefighting, currently.
You are Hawke?
Jeff M
2009-10-11 21:04:15 UTC
Permalink
Post by HH&C
Post by Jeff M
Post by HH&C
Post by Hawke
Post by HH&C
Post by Hawke
Post by HH&C
Post by Hawke
Post by Buerste
<snip>
Post by Cliff
Your background in knowing anything is a hoax.
Cliff
Well, I have to follow what the Nobel Peace Prize winners say about Global
warming, peace with Israel, etc...don't I?
"Peace for us means the destruction of Israel. We are preparing for an
all-out war, a war which will last for generations."
Some things don't change from year to year with the NPP, do they? Do we
kill Jews first or stop Global Warming first?
No they don't. They have an agenda, which some right wing folks don't
like, but that usually indicates it's a good one. In this case they gave
the prize to someone who has and will continue to do good things for the
U.S. and the world. How weird of them, huh? As to the Jews, they are not
in any danger. If you knew the facts you would know that it's the Arabs
who are in danger from the Israeli military, not the other way around.
And you would know global warming is real. But as usual you are in the
dark about everything.
Hawke
By the way, I'm back.
I see that you didn't spend your absent time educating yourself.
How could you tell anyway? I've already got an advanced degree in
political science and yet you think I don't know what I'm talking about.
The discussion is about climate change, not politics. Your degree
does you no good here.
Post by Hawke
You thinking I'm not educated would be like you thinking that Gunner
doesn't know anything about guns. Both are way off base.
Hawke
You've already admitted that you are not educated nor trained in
climate change.
Go away.
It's true that I'm not trained in climate science but unlike you I am
able to reason. When you can do the same then you can comment on climate
science because if I'm excluded from commenting on that subject then you
are even more. Unless I'm mistaken and you are a scientist, which I'm
rather certain you are not. A janitor maybe.
Hawke
So what does a person educated in political science do for a living?
Something after grad school, usually, like law, teaching or journalism,
or some sort of public sector job. In my case, firefighting, currently.
You are Hawke?
Huh? No. But one of my degrees is in political science. I saw the
question "so what does a person educated in political science do for a
living?" and I thought I'd answer it generically.
HH&C
2009-10-12 04:28:04 UTC
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Post by Jeff M
Post by HH&C
Post by Hawke
Post by Hawke
Post by HH&C
Post by Hawke
Post by Buerste
<snip>
 Your background in knowing anything is a hoax.
Cliff
Well, I have to follow what the Nobel Peace Prize winners say about Global
warming, peace with Israel, etc...don't I?
"Peace for us means the destruction of Israel. We are preparing for an
all-out war, a war which will last for generations."
Some things don't change from year to year with the NPP, do they?  Do we
kill Jews first or stop Global Warming first?
No they don't. They have an agenda, which some right wing folks don't
like, but that usually indicates it's a good one. In this case they gave
the prize to someone who has and will continue to do good things for the
U.S. and the world. How weird of them, huh? As to the Jews, they are not
in any danger. If you knew the facts you would know that it's the Arabs
who are in danger from the Israeli military, not the other way around.
And you would know global warming is real. But as usual you are in the
dark about everything.
Hawke
By the way, I'm back.
I see that you didn't spend your absent time educating yourself.
How could you tell anyway? I've already got an advanced degree in
political science and yet you think I don't know what I'm talking about.
The discussion is about climate change, not politics.  Your degree
does you no good here.
Post by Hawke
You thinking I'm not educated would be like you thinking that Gunner
doesn't know anything about guns. Both are way off base.
Hawke
You've already admitted that you are not educated nor trained in
climate change.
Go away.
It's true that I'm not trained in climate science but unlike you I am
able to reason. When you can do the same then you can comment on climate
science because if I'm excluded from commenting on that subject then you
are even more. Unless I'm mistaken and you are a scientist, which I'm
rather certain you are not. A janitor maybe.
Hawke
So what does a person educated in political science do for a living?
Something after grad school, usually, like law, teaching or journalism,
or some sort of public sector job.  In my case, firefighting, currently.
You are Hawke?
Huh?  No.  But one of my degrees is in political science.  I saw the
question "so what does a person educated in political science do for a
living?" and I thought I'd answer it generically.
I guess I got an education in polititical science, too.
Unintentionally.

Why do you suppose Hawke is wasting what remains of sentient life with
all this crap about 2.1 deg F?
Lib Loo
2009-10-12 04:20:45 UTC
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Post by HH&C
Post by Hawke
Post by HH&C
Post by Hawke
Post by HH&C
Post by Hawke
Post by Buerste
<snip>
Post by Cliff
Your background in knowing anything is a hoax.
Cliff
Well, I have to follow what the Nobel Peace Prize winners say about Global
warming, peace with Israel, etc...don't I?
"Peace for us means the destruction of Israel. We are preparing for an
all-out war, a war which will last for generations."
Some things don't change from year to year with the NPP, do they?
Do we
kill Jews first or stop Global Warming first?
No they don't. They have an agenda, which some right wing folks don't
like, but that usually indicates it's a good one. In this case they gave
the prize to someone who has and will continue to do good things for the
U.S. and the world. How weird of them, huh? As to the Jews, they are not
in any danger. If you knew the facts you would know that it's the Arabs
who are in danger from the Israeli military, not the other way around.
And you would know global warming is real. But as usual you are in the
dark about everything.
Hawke
By the way, I'm back.
I see that you didn't spend your absent time educating yourself.
How could you tell anyway? I've already got an advanced degree in
political science and yet you think I don't know what I'm talking about.
The discussion is about climate change, not politics. Your degree
does you no good here.
Post by Hawke
You thinking I'm not educated would be like you thinking that Gunner
doesn't know anything about guns. Both are way off base.
Hawke
You've already admitted that you are not educated nor trained in
climate change.
Go away.
It's true that I'm not trained in climate science but unlike you I am
able to reason. When you can do the same then you can comment on climate
science because if I'm excluded from commenting on that subject then you
are even more. Unless I'm mistaken and you are a scientist, which I'm
rather certain you are not. A janitor maybe.
Hawke
So what does a person educated in political science do for a living?
Something after grad school, usually, like law, teaching or journalism, or
some sort of public sector job. In my case, firefighting, currently.
Around here you can become a firefighter without a degree in Political
Science :)
HH&C
2009-10-12 04:30:42 UTC
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Post by Lib Loo
Post by HH&C
Post by Hawke
Post by Hawke
Post by HH&C
Post by Hawke
Post by Buerste
<snip>
 Your background in knowing anything is a hoax.
Cliff
Well, I have to follow what the Nobel Peace Prize winners say about
Global
warming, peace with Israel, etc...don't I?
"Peace for us means the destruction of Israel. We are preparing for an
all-out war, a war which will last for generations."
Some things don't change from year to year with the NPP, do they?
Do we
kill Jews first or stop Global Warming first?
No they don't. They have an agenda, which some right wing folks don't
like, but that usually indicates it's a good one. In this case they gave
the prize to someone who has and will continue to do good things for the
U.S. and the world. How weird of them, huh? As to the Jews, they are not
in any danger. If you knew the facts you would know that it's the Arabs
who are in danger from the Israeli military, not the other way around.
And you would know global warming is real. But as usual you are in the
dark about everything.
Hawke
By the way, I'm back.
I see that you didn't spend your absent time educating yourself.
How could you tell anyway? I've already got an advanced degree in
political science and yet you think I don't know what I'm talking about.
The discussion is about climate change, not politics.  Your degree
does you no good here.
Post by Hawke
You thinking I'm not educated would be like you thinking that Gunner
doesn't know anything about guns. Both are way off base.
Hawke
You've already admitted that you are not educated nor trained in
climate change.
Go away.
It's true that I'm not trained in climate science but unlike you I am
able to reason. When you can do the same then you can comment on climate
science because if I'm excluded from commenting on that subject then you
are even more. Unless I'm mistaken and you are a scientist, which I'm
rather certain you are not. A janitor maybe.
Hawke
So what does a person educated in political science do for a living?
Something after grad school, usually, like law, teaching or journalism, or
some sort of public sector job.  In my case, firefighting, currently.
Around here you can become a firefighter without a degree in Political
Science :)
I'll take any kind of firefighter. Well, almost any kind of
firefighter.
Gunner Asch
2009-10-11 22:16:52 UTC
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On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 10:55:01 -0700 (PDT), "HH&C"
Post by HH&C
Post by Hawke
Post by Hawke
Post by HH&C
Post by Hawke
Post by Buerste
<snip>
 Your background in knowing anything is a hoax.
Cliff
Well, I have to follow what the Nobel Peace Prize winners say about Global
warming, peace with Israel, etc...don't I?
"Peace for us means the destruction of Israel. We are preparing for an
all-out war, a war which will last for generations."
Some things don't change from year to year with the NPP, do they?  Do we
kill Jews first or stop Global Warming first?
No they don't. They have an agenda, which some right wing folks don't
like, but that usually indicates it's a good one. In this case they gave
the prize to someone who has and will continue to do good things for the
U.S. and the world. How weird of them, huh? As to the Jews, they are not
in any danger. If you knew the facts you would know that it's the Arabs
who are in danger from the Israeli military, not the other way around.
And you would know global warming is real. But as usual you are in the
dark about everything.
Hawke
By the way, I'm back.
I see that you didn't spend your absent time educating yourself.
How could you tell anyway? I've already got an advanced degree in
political science and yet you think I don't know what I'm talking about.
The discussion is about climate change, not politics.  Your degree
does you no good here.
Post by Hawke
You thinking I'm not educated would be like you thinking that Gunner
doesn't know anything about guns. Both are way off base.
Hawke
You've already admitted that you are not educated nor trained in
climate change.
Go away.
It's true that I'm not trained in climate science but unlike you I am
able to reason. When you can do the same then you can comment on climate
science because if I'm excluded from commenting on that subject then you
are even more. Unless I'm mistaken and you are a scientist, which I'm
rather certain you are not. A janitor maybe.
Hawke
So what does a person educated in political science do for a living?
"Would you like fries with that?"




"Lenin called them "useful idiots," those people living in
liberal democracies who by giving moral and material support
to a totalitarian ideology in effect were braiding the rope that
would hang them. Why people who enjoyed freedom and prosperity worked
passionately to destroy both is a fascinating question, one still with us
today. Now the useful idiots can be found in the chorus of appeasement,
reflexive anti-Americanism, and sentimental idealism trying to inhibit
the necessary responses to another freedom-hating ideology, radical Islam"

Bruce C. Thornton, a professor of Classics at American University of Cal State Fresno
HH&C
2009-10-12 04:35:18 UTC
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On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 10:55:01 -0700 (PDT), "HH&C"
Post by HH&C
Post by Hawke
Post by Hawke
Post by HH&C
Post by Hawke
Post by Buerste
<snip>
 Your background in knowing anything is a hoax.
Cliff
Well, I have to follow what the Nobel Peace Prize winners say about Global
warming, peace with Israel, etc...don't I?
"Peace for us means the destruction of Israel. We are preparing for an
all-out war, a war which will last for generations."
Some things don't change from year to year with the NPP, do they?  Do we
kill Jews first or stop Global Warming first?
No they don't. They have an agenda, which some right wing folks don't
like, but that usually indicates it's a good one. In this case they gave
the prize to someone who has and will continue to do good things for the
U.S. and the world. How weird of them, huh? As to the Jews, they are not
in any danger. If you knew the facts you would know that it's the Arabs
who are in danger from the Israeli military, not the other way around.
And you would know global warming is real. But as usual you are in the
dark about everything.
Hawke
By the way, I'm back.
I see that you didn't spend your absent time educating yourself.
How could you tell anyway? I've already got an advanced degree in
political science and yet you think I don't know what I'm talking about.
The discussion is about climate change, not politics.  Your degree
does you no good here.
Post by Hawke
You thinking I'm not educated would be like you thinking that Gunner
doesn't know anything about guns. Both are way off base.
Hawke
You've already admitted that you are not educated nor trained in
climate change.
Go away.
It's true that I'm not trained in climate science but unlike you I am
able to reason. When you can do the same then you can comment on climate
science because if I'm excluded from commenting on that subject then you
are even more. Unless I'm mistaken and you are a scientist, which I'm
rather certain you are not. A janitor maybe.
Hawke
So what does a person educated in political science do for a living?
"Would you like fries with that?"
Too fucking funny. Do you know how many times I wished the field
kitchen asked that question? Cajun fries with cheese.

Maybe the little raptor would volunteer for a USO tour and serve fries
after singing his bullshit protest songs.
pyotr filipivich
2009-10-12 08:32:44 UTC
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I missed the Staff Meeting but the Minutes record that Gunner Asch
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by HH&C
Post by Hawke
It's true that I'm not trained in climate science but unlike you I am
able to reason. When you can do the same then you can comment on climate
science because if I'm excluded from commenting on that subject then you
are even more. Unless I'm mistaken and you are a scientist, which I'm
rather certain you are not. A janitor maybe.
Hawke
So what does a person educated in political science do for a living?
"Would you like fries with that?"
Either that, or over throw governments...

pyotr


Why no, I didn't major in PoliSci, just History. With a strong
emphasis on PoliSci and how revolutions "work".
-
pyotr filipivich.
Just about the time you finally see light at the end of the tunnel,
you find out it's a Government Project to build more tunnel.
Michael A. Terrell
2009-10-12 18:07:05 UTC
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Post by HH&C
So what does a person educated in political science do for a living?
"Would you like fries with that?"
How do you get that weirdo with the political science degree off your
front porch? PAY FOR THE DAMN PIZZA!
--
The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!
Gunner Asch
2009-10-12 21:09:23 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:07:05 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
Post by Michael A. Terrell
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by HH&C
So what does a person educated in political science do for a living?
"Would you like fries with that?"
How do you get that weirdo with the political science degree off your
front porch? PAY FOR THE DAMN PIZZA!
ROFLMAO!!! Very well done!


"Lenin called them "useful idiots," those people living in
liberal democracies who by giving moral and material support
to a totalitarian ideology in effect were braiding the rope that
would hang them. Why people who enjoyed freedom and prosperity worked
passionately to destroy both is a fascinating question, one still with us
today. Now the useful idiots can be found in the chorus of appeasement,
reflexive anti-Americanism, and sentimental idealism trying to inhibit
the necessary responses to another freedom-hating ideology, radical Islam"

Bruce C. Thornton, a professor of Classics at American University of Cal State Fresno
Rich Grise
2009-10-12 22:38:12 UTC
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Post by Gunner Asch
On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:07:05 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
Post by Michael A. Terrell
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by HH&C
So what does a person educated in political science do for a living?
"Would you like fries with that?"
How do you get that weirdo with the political science degree off your
front porch? PAY FOR THE DAMN PIZZA!
ROFLMAO!!! Very well done!
Don't forget to tip him (or her) "liberally". >:->

Cheers!
Rich
Michael A. Terrell
2009-10-13 04:29:50 UTC
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Post by Rich Grise
Post by Gunner Asch
On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:07:05 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
Post by Michael A. Terrell
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by HH&C
So what does a person educated in political science do for a living?
"Would you like fries with that?"
How do you get that weirdo with the political science degree off your
front porch? PAY FOR THE DAMN PIZZA!
ROFLMAO!!! Very well done!
Don't forget to tip him (or her) "liberally". >:->
If you tip them you'll have to call the rescue squad to get them off
their fat asses, and back on their feet.
--
The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!
Michael A. Terrell
2009-10-13 04:30:04 UTC
Permalink
Post by Gunner Asch
On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:07:05 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
Post by Michael A. Terrell
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by HH&C
So what does a person educated in political science do for a living?
"Would you like fries with that?"
How do you get that weirdo with the political science degree off your
front porch? PAY FOR THE DAMN PIZZA!
ROFLMAO!!! Very well done!
:)
--
The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!
Lib Loo
2009-10-12 04:19:09 UTC
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Post by HH&C
Post by Hawke
Post by Hawke
Post by HH&C
Post by Hawke
Post by Buerste
<snip>
Post by Cliff
Your background in knowing anything is a hoax.
Cliff
Well, I have to follow what the Nobel Peace Prize winners say about Global
warming, peace with Israel, etc...don't I?
"Peace for us means the destruction of Israel. We are preparing for an
all-out war, a war which will last for generations."
Some things don't change from year to year with the NPP, do they?
Do we
kill Jews first or stop Global Warming first?
No they don't. They have an agenda, which some right wing folks don't
like, but that usually indicates it's a good one. In this case they gave
the prize to someone who has and will continue to do good things for the
U.S. and the world. How weird of them, huh? As to the Jews, they are not
in any danger. If you knew the facts you would know that it's the Arabs
who are in danger from the Israeli military, not the other way around.
And you would know global warming is real. But as usual you are in the
dark about everything.
Hawke
By the way, I'm back.
I see that you didn't spend your absent time educating yourself.
How could you tell anyway? I've already got an advanced degree in
political science and yet you think I don't know what I'm talking about.
The discussion is about climate change, not politics. Your degree
does you no good here.
Post by Hawke
You thinking I'm not educated would be like you thinking that Gunner
doesn't know anything about guns. Both are way off base.
Hawke
You've already admitted that you are not educated nor trained in
climate change.
Go away.
It's true that I'm not trained in climate science but unlike you I am
able to reason. When you can do the same then you can comment on climate
science because if I'm excluded from commenting on that subject then you
are even more. Unless I'm mistaken and you are a scientist, which I'm
rather certain you are not. A janitor maybe.
Hawke
So what does a person educated in political science do for a living?
Librarian
HH&C
2009-10-12 04:38:15 UTC
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Post by Lib Loo
Post by HH&C
Post by Hawke
Post by Hawke
Post by HH&C
Post by Hawke
Post by Buerste
<snip>
Post by Cliff
Your background in knowing anything is a hoax.
Cliff
Well, I have to follow what the Nobel Peace Prize winners say about
Global
warming, peace with Israel, etc...don't I?
"Peace for us means the destruction of Israel. We are preparing for an
all-out war, a war which will last for generations."
Some things don't change from year to year with the NPP, do they?
Do we
kill Jews first or stop Global Warming first?
No they don't. They have an agenda, which some right wing folks don't
like, but that usually indicates it's a good one. In this case they gave
the prize to someone who has and will continue to do good things for the
U.S. and the world. How weird of them, huh? As to the Jews, they are not
in any danger. If you knew the facts you would know that it's the Arabs
who are in danger from the Israeli military, not the other way around.
And you would know global warming is real. But as usual you are in the
dark about everything.
Hawke
By the way, I'm back.
I see that you didn't spend your absent time educating yourself.
How could you tell anyway? I've already got an advanced degree in
political science and yet you think I don't know what I'm talking about.
The discussion is about climate change, not politics. Your degree
does you no good here.
Post by Hawke
You thinking I'm not educated would be like you thinking that Gunner
doesn't know anything about guns. Both are way off base.
Hawke
You've already admitted that you are not educated nor trained in
climate change.
Go away.
It's true that I'm not trained in climate science but unlike you I am
able to reason. When you can do the same then you can comment on climate
science because if I'm excluded from commenting on that subject then you
are even more. Unless I'm mistaken and you are a scientist, which I'm
rather certain you are not. A janitor maybe.
Hawke
So what does a person educated in political science do for a living?
Librarian
Don't be knockin librarians. A good one can get you all of McCarthy's
transcripts. McCarthy was right, wasn't he?

But no Librarian can get you Obama's transcripts... hush hush, state
secrets... What up with dat?
Lib Loo
2009-10-12 05:06:33 UTC
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Post by HH&C
Post by Lib Loo
Post by HH&C
Post by Hawke
Post by Hawke
Post by HH&C
Post by Hawke
Post by Buerste
<snip>
Post by Cliff
Your background in knowing anything is a hoax.
Cliff
Well, I have to follow what the Nobel Peace Prize winners say about
Global
warming, peace with Israel, etc...don't I?
"Peace for us means the destruction of Israel. We are preparing
for
an
all-out war, a war which will last for generations."
Some things don't change from year to year with the NPP, do they?
Do we
kill Jews first or stop Global Warming first?
No they don't. They have an agenda, which some right wing folks don't
like, but that usually indicates it's a good one. In this case
they
gave
the prize to someone who has and will continue to do good things
for
the
U.S. and the world. How weird of them, huh? As to the Jews, they
are
not
in any danger. If you knew the facts you would know that it's the Arabs
who are in danger from the Israeli military, not the other way around.
And you would know global warming is real. But as usual you are
in
the
dark about everything.
Hawke
By the way, I'm back.
I see that you didn't spend your absent time educating yourself.
How could you tell anyway? I've already got an advanced degree in
political science and yet you think I don't know what I'm talking about.
The discussion is about climate change, not politics. Your degree
does you no good here.
Post by Hawke
You thinking I'm not educated would be like you thinking that Gunner
doesn't know anything about guns. Both are way off base.
Hawke
You've already admitted that you are not educated nor trained in
climate change.
Go away.
It's true that I'm not trained in climate science but unlike you I am
able to reason. When you can do the same then you can comment on climate
science because if I'm excluded from commenting on that subject then you
are even more. Unless I'm mistaken and you are a scientist, which I'm
rather certain you are not. A janitor maybe.
Hawke
So what does a person educated in political science do for a living?
Librarian
Don't be knockin librarians. A good one can get you all of McCarthy's
transcripts. McCarthy was right, wasn't he?
But no Librarian can get you Obama's transcripts... hush hush, state
secrets... What up with dat?
Maybe his transcripts are hidden in a library?
Michael A. Terrell
2009-10-12 18:11:16 UTC
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Post by Lib Loo
Post by HH&C
Don't be knockin librarians. A good one can get you all of McCarthy's
transcripts. McCarthy was right, wasn't he?
But no Librarian can get you Obama's transcripts... hush hush, state
secrets... What up with dat?
Maybe his transcripts are hidden in a library?
There are a couple things bo Obama on Project Gutenberg. I thought
that Project Gutenberg was created to preserve, old out of print
material?
--
The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!
Michael A. Terrell
2009-10-12 18:08:19 UTC
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Post by Lib Loo
Post by HH&C
So what does a person educated in political science do for a living?
Librarian
Conan the Librarian!
--
The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!
Curly Surmudgeon
2009-10-11 20:43:33 UTC
Permalink
Post by Hawke
Post by Hawke
Post by HH&C
Post by Hawke
Post by Buerste
Post by Cliff
Your background in knowing anything is a hoax.
Cliff
Well, I have to follow what the Nobel Peace Prize winners say about
Global warming, peace with Israel, etc...don't I? NPP winner Yasser
"Peace for us means the destruction of Israel. We are preparing for
an all-out war, a war which will last for generations." Some things
don't change from year to year with the NPP, do they? Do we kill
Jews first or stop Global Warming first?
No they don't. They have an agenda, which some right wing folks
don't like, but that usually indicates it's a good one. In this case
they gave the prize to someone who has and will continue to do good
things for the U.S. and the world. How weird of them, huh? As to the
Jews, they are not in any danger. If you knew the facts you would
know that it's the Arabs who are in danger from the Israeli
military, not the other way around. And you would know global
warming is real. But as usual you are in the dark about everything.
Hawke
By the way, I'm back.
I see that you didn't spend your absent time educating yourself.
How could you tell anyway? I've already got an advanced degree in
political science and yet you think I don't know what I'm talking about.
The discussion is about climate change, not politics. Your degree does
you no good here.
Post by Hawke
You thinking I'm not educated would be like you thinking that Gunner
doesn't know anything about guns. Both are way off base.
Hawke
You've already admitted that you are not educated nor trained in
climate change.
Go away.
It's true that I'm not trained in climate science but unlike you I am
able to reason. When you can do the same then you can comment on climate
science because if I'm excluded from commenting on that subject then you
are even more. Unless I'm mistaken and you are a scientist, which I'm
rather certain you are not. A janitor maybe.
Hawke
The cockroach can see clouds from his front porch...
--
Regards, Curly
HH&C
2009-10-11 21:00:25 UTC
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Post by Curly Surmudgeon
Post by Hawke
Post by Hawke
Post by HH&C
Post by Hawke
Post by Buerste
 Your background in knowing anything is a hoax.
Cliff
Well, I have to follow what the Nobel Peace Prize winners say about
Global warming, peace with Israel, etc...don't I? NPP winner Yasser
"Peace for us means the destruction of Israel. We are preparing for
an all-out war, a war which will last for generations." Some things
don't change from year to year with the NPP, do they?  Do we kill
Jews first or stop Global Warming first?
No they don't. They have an agenda, which some right wing folks
don't like, but that usually indicates it's a good one. In this case
they gave the prize to someone who has and will continue to do good
things for the U.S. and the world. How weird of them, huh? As to the
Jews, they are not in any danger. If you knew the facts you would
know that it's the Arabs who are in danger from the Israeli
military, not the other way around. And you would know global
warming is real. But as usual you are in the dark about everything.
Hawke
By the way, I'm back.
I see that you didn't spend your absent time educating yourself.
How could you tell anyway? I've already got an advanced degree in
political science and yet you think I don't know what I'm talking about.
The discussion is about climate change, not politics.  Your degree does
you no good here.
Post by Hawke
You thinking I'm not educated would be like you thinking that Gunner
doesn't know anything about guns. Both are way off base.
Hawke
You've already admitted that you are not educated nor trained in
climate change.
Go away.
It's true that I'm not trained in climate science but unlike you I am
able to reason. When you can do the same then you can comment on climate
science because if I'm excluded from commenting on that subject then you
are even more. Unless I'm mistaken and you are a scientist, which I'm
rather certain you are not. A janitor maybe.
Hawke
The cockroach can see clouds from his front porch...
...and my back deck. As a matter of fact, I can see all 27 states of
sky when present. I can encode weather observations in Airways and
Metar Codes. Even FALOP Code. I taught FALOP code to to radar site
operators in the DMZ in Korea.

What is your experience with weather? climate?

BTW, do you still maintain that the earth's climate is a closed
system?
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2009-10-11 23:16:49 UTC
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I lick my balls on my back deck. As a matter of fact, I can do it in
public!
Good for you Cheezy........
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Lib Loo
2009-10-12 04:29:13 UTC
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I like when Curly sticks his little stub of a cock in my mouth and pisses
down my throat
Good for you Carol!
HH&C
2009-10-12 04:43:10 UTC
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I like when Curly sticks his little stub of a cock in my mouth and pisses
down my throat
 Good for you Carol!
HH&C
2009-10-12 04:43:49 UTC
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I like when Curly sticks his little stub of a cock in my mouth and pisses
down my throat
 Good for you Carol!
Do you think they are blood or just related by marriage?
Lib Loo
2009-10-12 05:04:29 UTC
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Post by HH&C
Post by Lib Loo
I like when Curly sticks his little stub of a cock in my mouth and pisses
down my throat
Good for you Carol!
Do you think they are blood or just related by marriage?
They just live together in sin. Marriage isn't an option.
HH&C
2009-10-12 04:41:35 UTC
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Post by John R. Carroll
I lick my balls on  my back deck.  As a matter of fact,  I can do it in
public!
Good for you Cheezy........
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John R. Carroll
You seem to have a problem with honesty. Just like w0ex.
Curly Surmudgeon
2009-10-12 06:15:52 UTC
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On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15:16:49 -0800, "John R. Carroll"
Post by John R. Carroll
I lick my balls on my back deck. As a matter of fact, I can do it in
public!
Good for you Cheezy........
He's lying. Again.

Cockroaches don't have testicles.
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Regards, Curly
HH&C
2009-10-12 18:14:53 UTC
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Post by Curly Surmudgeon
On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15:16:49 -0800, "John R. Carroll"
Post by John R. Carroll
I lick my balls on  my back deck.  As a matter of fact,  I can do it in
public!
Good for you Cheezy........
He's lying.  Again.
Cockroaches don't have testicles.
You and Carol work so hard to make yourselves look rediculous, and it
pays off.

Who says hard work isn't rewarded?
Post by Curly Surmudgeon
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Lib Loo
2009-10-12 04:24:46 UTC
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Post by HH&C
Post by Curly Surmudgeon
Post by Hawke
Post by Hawke
Post by HH&C
Post by Hawke
Post by Buerste
Post by Cliff
Your background in knowing anything is a hoax.
Cliff
Well, I have to follow what the Nobel Peace Prize winners say about
Global warming, peace with Israel, etc...don't I? NPP winner Yasser
"Peace for us means the destruction of Israel. We are preparing for
an all-out war, a war which will last for generations." Some things
don't change from year to year with the NPP, do they? Do we kill
Jews first or stop Global Warming first?
No they don't. They have an agenda, which some right wing folks
don't like, but that usually indicates it's a good one. In this case
they gave the prize to someone who has and will continue to do good
things for the U.S. and the world. How weird of them, huh? As to the
Jews, they are not in any danger. If you knew the facts you would
know that it's the Arabs who are in danger from the Israeli
military, not the other way around. And you would know global
warming is real. But as usual you are in the dark about everything.
Hawke
By the way, I'm back.
I see that you didn't spend your absent time educating yourself.
How could you tell anyway? I've already got an advanced degree in
political science and yet you think I don't know what I'm talking about.
The discussion is about climate change, not politics. Your degree does
you no good here.
Post by Hawke
You thinking I'm not educated would be like you thinking that Gunner
doesn't know anything about guns. Both are way off base.
Hawke
You've already admitted that you are not educated nor trained in
climate change.
Go away.
It's true that I'm not trained in climate science but unlike you I am
able to reason. When you can do the same then you can comment on climate
science because if I'm excluded from commenting on that subject then you
are even more. Unless I'm mistaken and you are a scientist, which I'm
rather certain you are not. A janitor maybe.
Hawke
The cockroach can see clouds from his front porch...
...and my back deck. As a matter of fact, I can see all 27 states of
sky when present. I can encode weather observations in Airways and
Metar Codes. Even FALOP Code. I taught FALOP code to to radar site
operators in the DMZ in Korea.
What is your experience with weather? climate?
He likes to blow a lot of hot air, and boys.
Post by HH&C
BTW, do you still maintain that the earth's climate is a closed
system?
Post by Curly Surmudgeon
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HH&C
2009-10-12 04:45:18 UTC
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Post by Lib Loo
Post by Curly Surmudgeon
Post by Hawke
Post by Hawke
Post by HH&C
Post by Hawke
Post by Buerste
Post by Cliff
Your background in knowing anything is a hoax.
Cliff
Well, I have to follow what the Nobel Peace Prize winners say about
Global warming, peace with Israel, etc...don't I? NPP winner Yasser
"Peace for us means the destruction of Israel. We are preparing for
an all-out war, a war which will last for generations." Some things
don't change from year to year with the NPP, do they? Do we kill
Jews first or stop Global Warming first?
No they don't. They have an agenda, which some right wing folks
don't like, but that usually indicates it's a good one. In this case
they gave the prize to someone who has and will continue to do good
things for the U.S. and the world. How weird of them, huh? As to the
Jews, they are not in any danger. If you knew the facts you would
know that it's the Arabs who are in danger from the Israeli
military, not the other way around. And you would know global
warming is real. But as usual you are in the dark about everything.
Hawke
By the way, I'm back.
I see that you didn't spend your absent time educating yourself.
How could you tell anyway? I've already got an advanced degree in
political science and yet you think I don't know what I'm talking about.
The discussion is about climate change, not politics. Your degree does
you no good here.
Post by Hawke
You thinking I'm not educated would be like you thinking that Gunner
doesn't know anything about guns. Both are way off base.
Hawke
You've already admitted that you are not educated nor trained in
climate change.
Go away.
It's true that I'm not trained in climate science but unlike you I am
able to reason. When you can do the same then you can comment on climate
science because if I'm excluded from commenting on that subject then you
are even more. Unless I'm mistaken and you are a scientist, which I'm
rather certain you are not. A janitor maybe.
Hawke
The cockroach can see clouds from his front porch...
...and my back deck.  As a matter of fact, I can see all 27 states of
sky when present.  I can encode weather observations in Airways and
Metar Codes.  Even FALOP Code.  I taught FALOP code to to radar site
operators in the DMZ in Korea.
What is your experience with weather?  climate?
He likes to blow a lot of hot air, and boys.
I guess that's legal in Argentina. If you have enough money.
Post by Lib Loo
BTW, do you still maintain that the earth's climate is a closed
system?
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Lib Loo
2009-10-13 00:38:26 UTC
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<snip>
Post by Cliff
Your background in knowing anything is a hoax.
Cliff
Well, I have to follow what the Nobel Peace Prize winners say about Global
warming, peace with Israel, etc...don't I?
"Peace for us means the destruction of Israel. We are preparing for an
all-out war, a war which will last for generations."
Some things don't change from year to year with the NPP, do they? Do
we
kill Jews first or stop Global Warming first?
No they don't. They have an agenda, which some right wing folks don't
like, but that usually indicates it's a good one. In this case they gave
the prize to someone who has and will continue to do good things for the
U.S. and the world. How weird of them, huh? As to the Jews, they are not
in any danger. If you knew the facts you would know that it's the Arabs
who are in danger from the Israeli military, not the other way around.
And you would know global warming is real. But as usual you are in the
dark about everything.
Hawke
By the way, I'm back.
I see that you didn't spend your absent time educating yourself.
How could you tell anyway? I've already got an advanced degree in
political science and yet you think I don't know what I'm talking about.
The discussion is about climate change, not politics. Your degree
does you no good here.
Post by Hawke
You thinking I'm not educated would be like you thinking that Gunner
doesn't know anything about guns. Both are way off base.
Hawke
You've already admitted that you are not educated nor trained in
climate change.
Go away.
Neither is Algore, but that doesn't stop him from bloviating either.
Lib Loo
2009-10-13 00:42:25 UTC
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Post by Hawke
Post by HH&C
Post by Hawke
Hawke
By the way, I'm back.
I see that you didn't spend your absent time educating yourself.
How could you tell anyway? I've already got an advanced degree in
political science and yet you think I don't know what I'm talking about.
Degree in Political Science, wow. You can go get yourself a nice paralegal
job now. Oh wait...
Gunner Asch
2009-10-11 10:49:38 UTC
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On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:15:45 -0700 (PDT), "HH&C"
Post by HH&C
Post by Hawke
Post by Buerste
<snip>
 Your background in knowing anything is a hoax.
Cliff
Well, I have to follow what the Nobel Peace Prize winners say about Global
warming, peace with Israel, etc...don't I?
"Peace for us means the destruction of Israel. We are preparing for an
all-out war, a war which will last for generations."
Some things don't change from year to year with the NPP, do they?  Do we
kill Jews first or stop Global Warming first?
No they don't. They have an agenda, which some right wing folks don't
like, but that usually indicates it's a good one. In this case they gave
the prize to someone who has and will continue to do good things for the
U.S. and the world. How weird of them, huh? As to the Jews, they are not
in any danger. If you knew the facts you would know that it's the Arabs
who are in danger from the Israeli military, not the other way around.
And you would know global warming is real. But as usual you are in the
dark about everything.
Hawke
By the way, I'm back.
I see that you didn't spend your absent time educating yourself.
He was in jail again.

All he did was give cons blow jobs. A job he is admirably suited for.


Gunner

"Lenin called them "useful idiots," those people living in
liberal democracies who by giving moral and material support
to a totalitarian ideology in effect were braiding the rope that
would hang them. Why people who enjoyed freedom and prosperity worked
passionately to destroy both is a fascinating question, one still with us
today. Now the useful idiots can be found in the chorus of appeasement,
reflexive anti-Americanism, and sentimental idealism trying to inhibit
the necessary responses to another freedom-hating ideology, radical Islam"

Bruce C. Thornton, a professor of Classics at American University of Cal State Fresno
HH&C
2009-10-11 13:16:23 UTC
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Post by Gunner Asch
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:15:45 -0700 (PDT), "HH&C"
Post by HH&C
Post by Hawke
Post by Buerste
<snip>
 Your background in knowing anything is a hoax.
Cliff
Well, I have to follow what the Nobel Peace Prize winners say about Global
warming, peace with Israel, etc...don't I?
"Peace for us means the destruction of Israel. We are preparing for an
all-out war, a war which will last for generations."
Some things don't change from year to year with the NPP, do they?  Do we
kill Jews first or stop Global Warming first?
No they don't. They have an agenda, which some right wing folks don't
like, but that usually indicates it's a good one. In this case they gave
the prize to someone who has and will continue to do good things for the
U.S. and the world. How weird of them, huh? As to the Jews, they are not
in any danger. If you knew the facts you would know that it's the Arabs
who are in danger from the Israeli military, not the other way around.
And you would know global warming is real. But as usual you are in the
dark about everything.
Hawke
By the way, I'm back.
I see that you didn't spend your absent time educating yourself.
He was in jail again.
All he did was give cons blow jobs. A job he is admirably suited for.
I think that is the definition of "Punk." No wonder I'm not a fan of
punk rock.
Post by Gunner Asch
Gunner
"Lenin called them "useful idiots," those people living in
liberal democracies who by giving moral and material support
to a totalitarian ideology in effect were braiding the rope that
would hang them. Why people who enjoyed freedom and prosperity worked
passionately to destroy both is a fascinating question, one still with us
today. Now the useful idiots can be found in the chorus of appeasement,
reflexive anti-Americanism, and sentimental idealism trying to inhibit
the necessary responses to another freedom-hating ideology, radical Islam"
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Hawke
2009-10-11 17:48:37 UTC
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On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:15:45 -0700 (PDT), "HH&C"
Post by HH&C
Post by Hawke
Post by Buerste
<snip>
Post by Cliff
Your background in knowing anything is a hoax.
Cliff
Well, I have to follow what the Nobel Peace Prize winners say about Global
warming, peace with Israel, etc...don't I?
"Peace for us means the destruction of Israel. We are preparing for an
all-out war, a war which will last for generations."
Some things don't change from year to year with the NPP, do they? Do we
kill Jews first or stop Global Warming first?
No they don't. They have an agenda, which some right wing folks don't
like, but that usually indicates it's a good one. In this case they gave
the prize to someone who has and will continue to do good things for the
U.S. and the world. How weird of them, huh? As to the Jews, they are not
in any danger. If you knew the facts you would know that it's the Arabs
who are in danger from the Israeli military, not the other way around.
And you would know global warming is real. But as usual you are in the
dark about everything.
Hawke
By the way, I'm back.
I see that you didn't spend your absent time educating yourself.
He was in jail again.
All he did was give cons blow jobs. A job he is admirably suited for.
Gummer comments on giving blow jobs. At least that is a subject in which
he has some expertise. Now if he would only confine himself to subjects
like that where he knows what he's talking about. Fat chance of that though.

Hawke
HH&C
2009-10-12 04:47:29 UTC
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Post by Hawke
Post by Gunner Asch
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:15:45 -0700 (PDT), "HH&C"
Post by HH&C
Post by Hawke
Post by Buerste
<snip>
 Your background in knowing anything is a hoax.
Cliff
Well, I have to follow what the Nobel Peace Prize winners say about Global
warming, peace with Israel, etc...don't I?
"Peace for us means the destruction of Israel. We are preparing for an
all-out war, a war which will last for generations."
Some things don't change from year to year with the NPP, do they?  Do we
kill Jews first or stop Global Warming first?
No they don't. They have an agenda, which some right wing folks don't
like, but that usually indicates it's a good one. In this case they gave
the prize to someone who has and will continue to do good things for the
U.S. and the world. How weird of them, huh? As to the Jews, they are not
in any danger. If you knew the facts you would know that it's the Arabs
who are in danger from the Israeli military, not the other way around.
And you would know global warming is real. But as usual you are in the
dark about everything.
Hawke
By the way, I'm back.
I see that you didn't spend your absent time educating yourself.
He was in jail again.
All he did was give cons blow jobs. A job he is admirably suited for.
Gummer comments on giving blow jobs. At least that is a subject in which
he has some expertise. Now if he would only confine himself to subjects
like that where he knows what he's talking about. Fat chance of that though.
Hawke
Welp, your only expertise is in political science, and knowing who
gives blow jobs. Have you ever worked a day in your life?
Buerste
2009-10-11 05:48:09 UTC
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"Hawke" <***@digitalpath.net> wrote in message news:hari8k$pc6$***@aioe.org...
<snip>
Post by Hawke
And you would know global warming is real. But as usual you are in the
dark about everything.
Hawke
By the way, I'm back.
Were you gone?

This headline may come as a bit of a surprise, so too might that fact that
the warmest year recorded globally was not in 2008 or 2007, but in 1998.

But it is true. For the last 11 years we have not observed any increase in
global temperatures.

And our climate models did not forecast it, even though man-made carbon
dioxide, the gas thought to be responsible for warming our planet, has
continued to rise.

Read:http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8299079.stm
HH&C
2009-10-11 13:20:27 UTC
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Post by Buerste
<snip>
Post by Hawke
And you would know global warming is real. But as usual you are in the
dark about everything.
Hawke
By the way, I'm back.
Were you gone?
This headline may come as a bit of a surprise, so too might that fact that
the warmest year recorded globally was not in 2008 or 2007, but in 1998.
But it is true. For the last 11 years we have not observed any increase in
global temperatures.
And our climate models did not forecast it, even though man-made carbon
dioxide, the gas thought to be responsible for warming our planet, has
continued to rise.
Read:http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8299079.stm
Can't be right. Models are human creations that never err.
HH&C
2009-10-11 13:13:01 UTC
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Without a Gulf stream to carry away the equatorial thermal energy
accumulation, hurricanes and weather systems of the past will seam
insignificant to those of the future.  
The Gulf Stream has already stopped.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=gulf+stream+stopped&btnG=Google+...
  More confusion.
  Per the ONE claim it stopped for 10 days in November 2004 and
then restarted.
  That cannot happen.
  FAR too much momentum in the ocean current circulation patterns.
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2009/20090810_julystats.html
More Global Warming Hoax confirmation today.
  Liar.
  You really don't have a clue, do you? None at all.
       Any area will have periods of above & below average temps for that area.
Hence the "average". Some areas in the Western US set record highs per your own
link.
       IIRC China was having a very hot summer.
       I'd guess the arctic was warm too.
 http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/?report=national
[
Alaska had its 2nd warmest July since records began in 1918, with a temperature
2.9°F (1.6°C) above the 1971—2000 average.
Alaska had its 7th warmest May—July on record, with a temperature 2.1°F (1.2°C)
above the 1971—2000 average.
Alaska had its 27th warmest January—July on record, with a temperature 0.4°F
(0.2°C) above the 1971—2000 average.
]
       http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/
[
Selected Global Highlights for June 2009
Based on preliminary data, the globally averaged combined land and sea surface
temperature was the second warmest on record for June and the January-June
year-to-date tied with 2004 as the fifth warmest on record.
Large portions of each inhabited continent were substantially warmer than
average during June 2009. The warmest anomalies were most notable in parts of
Africa and most of Eurasia. The most notable cooler-than-average temperatures
were present from the southwestern U.S. to the Northern Plains, the Canadian
Prairie Provinces, central Asia, and across the boundary of northeastern China
and southeastern Russia.
]
[
El Niño–Southern Oscillation (ENSO) transitioned from ENSO-neutral to El Niño
conditions across the equatorial Pacific Ocean during June 2009. If El Niño
conditions continue to mature as projected by NOAA, global temperatures are
likely to continue to threaten previous record highs.
]
  Wingers are fools.
--
Cliff
El Nino is nothing new. Neither are fluctuations in global
temeperature. Quit your panic. Take a deep breath.
Cliff
2009-10-13 19:17:27 UTC
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On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 06:13:01 -0700 (PDT), "HH&C"
Post by HH&C
Without a Gulf stream to carry away the equatorial thermal energy
accumulation, hurricanes and weather systems of the past will seam
insignificant to those of the future.  
The Gulf Stream has already stopped.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=gulf+stream+stopped&btnG=Google+...
  More confusion.
  Per the ONE claim it stopped for 10 days in November 2004 and
then restarted.
  That cannot happen.
  FAR too much momentum in the ocean current circulation patterns.
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2009/20090810_julystats.html
More Global Warming Hoax confirmation today.
  Liar.
  You really don't have a clue, do you? None at all.
       Any area will have periods of above & below average temps for that area.
Hence the "average". Some areas in the Western US set record highs per your own
link.
       IIRC China was having a very hot summer.
       I'd guess the arctic was warm too.
 http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/?report=national
[
Alaska had its 2nd warmest July since records began in 1918, with a temperature
2.9°F (1.6°C) above the 1971—2000 average.
Alaska had its 7th warmest May—July on record, with a temperature 2.1°F (1.2°C)
above the 1971—2000 average.
Alaska had its 27th warmest January—July on record, with a temperature 0.4°F
(0.2°C) above the 1971—2000 average.
]
       http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/
[
Selected Global Highlights for June 2009
Based on preliminary data, the globally averaged combined land and sea surface
temperature was the second warmest on record for June and the January-June
year-to-date tied with 2004 as the fifth warmest on record.
Large portions of each inhabited continent were substantially warmer than
average during June 2009. The warmest anomalies were most notable in parts of
Africa and most of Eurasia. The most notable cooler-than-average temperatures
were present from the southwestern U.S. to the Northern Plains, the Canadian
Prairie Provinces, central Asia, and across the boundary of northeastern China
and southeastern Russia.
]
[
El Niño–Southern Oscillation (ENSO) transitioned from ENSO-neutral to El Niño
conditions across the equatorial Pacific Ocean during June 2009. If El Niño
conditions continue to mature as projected by NOAA, global temperatures are
likely to continue to threaten previous record highs.
]
  Wingers are fools.
--
Cliff
El Nino is nothing new. Neither are fluctuations in global
temeperature.
You try telling him.
Post by HH&C
Quit your panic. Take a deep breath.
Wingers never seem to get any education.
Or know what the subject is about.
--
Cliff
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