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Russian drone with thermite grenade blows up over a billion dollars of munitions in Ukraine
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Steve from Colorado
2017-07-28 04:21:40 UTC
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Check out the fireworks. Total destruction of Ukrainian munitions,
including rockets. This is a game changer in warfare.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/news/a27511/russia-drone-thermite-grenade-ukraine-ammo/
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Spain
2017-07-28 04:25:46 UTC
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Post by Steve from Colorado
Check out the fireworks. Total destruction of Ukrainian munitions,
including rockets. This is a game changer in warfare.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/news/a27511/russia-drone-thermite-grenade-ukraine-ammo/
Not good at all.

Putin advances.
rbowman
2017-07-28 14:06:48 UTC
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Post by Steve from Colorado
Check out the fireworks. Total destruction of Ukrainian munitions,
including rockets. This is a game changer in warfare.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/news/a27511/russia-drone-thermite-grenade-ukraine-ammo/
Not good at all.
Putin advances.
Ukraine needs to split. Even Sam Huntington in his 'Clash of
Civilizations', written at the close of the last century, predicted
Ukraine would split along cultural lines with the Ukrainian speaking
west aligning with the West and the Russian speaking Orthodox with Russia.
Steve from Colorado
2017-07-28 18:06:16 UTC
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Post by Steve from Colorado
Check out the fireworks. Total destruction of Ukrainian munitions,
including rockets. This is a game changer in warfare.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/news/a27511/russia-drone-thermite-grenade-ukraine-ammo/
Not good at all.
Putin advances.
Well, Vlad did warn the West that they'd better not put NATO right on
the border with Russia. This is the explosion heard 'round the world
(unless you don't read Popular Mechanics) and sends a message to Latvia,
Lithuania, and Estonia that letting NATO stockpile munitions in their
countries near the Russian motherland is, literally, like playing with
fire. Judging by the video of the explosions from an apartment building
5 miles away - I'd conjecture that the little drone with it's thermite
grenade cause more explosive damage than the Japs caused at Pearl
Harbor. Yes, Putin "advances" from the standpoint that Ukraine got hit
and got hit hard. This might make the Visigrad nations a little nervous
about welcoming NATO into their sovereign nations, along with their
nervousness about Brussels and Berlin wanting to wage demographic
warfare against them vis a vis the "refugee crisis." This was payback
for the American missile strike on Russian bases in Syria which the
mainstream media, neocons, and Hillary supporters thought was so grand.
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Spain
2017-07-28 21:23:39 UTC
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Post by Steve from Colorado
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Post by Steve from Colorado
Check out the fireworks. Total destruction of Ukrainian munitions,
including rockets. This is a game changer in warfare.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/news/a27511/russia-drone-thermite-grenade-ukraine-ammo/
Not good at all.
Putin advances.
Well, Vlad did warn the West that they'd better not put NATO right on
the border with Russia.
True enough.
Post by Steve from Colorado
This is the explosion heard 'round the world
(unless you don't read Popular Mechanics) and sends a message to Latvia,
Lithuania, and Estonia that letting NATO stockpile munitions in their
countries near the Russian motherland is, literally, like playing with
fire.
Yurop's Cuban missile crisis, so to speak.
Post by Steve from Colorado
Judging by the video of the explosions from an apartment building
5 miles away - I'd conjecture that the little drone with it's thermite
grenade cause more explosive damage than the Japs caused at Pearl
Harbor. Yes, Putin "advances" from the standpoint that Ukraine got hit
and got hit hard. This might make the Visigrad nations a little nervous
about welcoming NATO into their sovereign nations, along with their
nervousness about Brussels and Berlin wanting to wage demographic
warfare against them vis a vis the "refugee crisis." This was payback
for the American missile strike on Russian bases in Syria which the
mainstream media, neocons, and Hillary supporters thought was so grand.
Putin loves this kind of crap, he's like a smarter and more conniving
version of Lil Kim.
rbowman
2017-07-29 01:36:59 UTC
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Yurop's Cuban missile crisis, so to speak.
For which you can thank Susan Rice, Nuland, Power, Clinton, Obama,
Soros, and the rest of the neo-liberal/neo-conservative crew.
Spain
2017-07-29 16:40:29 UTC
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Post by Spain
Yurop's Cuban missile crisis, so to speak.
For which you can thank Susan Rice, Nuland, Power, Clinton, Obama,
Soros, and the rest of the neo-liberal/neo-conservative crew.
Exactly@!
Steve from Colorado
2017-08-03 17:07:01 UTC
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Post by Steve from Colorado
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Post by Steve from Colorado
Check out the fireworks. Total destruction of Ukrainian munitions,
including rockets. This is a game changer in warfare.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/news/a27511/russia-drone-thermite-grenade-ukraine-ammo/
Not good at all.
Putin advances.
Well, Vlad did warn the West that they'd better not put NATO right on
the border with Russia.
True enough.
Post by Steve from Colorado
This is the explosion heard 'round the world (unless you don't read
Popular Mechanics) and sends a message to Latvia, Lithuania, and
Estonia that letting NATO stockpile munitions in their countries near
the Russian motherland is, literally, like playing with fire.
Yurop's Cuban missile crisis, so to speak.
Post by Steve from Colorado
Judging by the video of the explosions from an apartment building 5
miles away - I'd conjecture that the little drone with it's thermite
grenade cause more explosive damage than the Japs caused at Pearl
Harbor. Yes, Putin "advances" from the standpoint that Ukraine got hit
and got hit hard. This might make the Visigrad nations a little
nervous about welcoming NATO into their sovereign nations, along with
their nervousness about Brussels and Berlin wanting to wage
demographic warfare against them vis a vis the "refugee crisis." This
was payback for the American missile strike on Russian bases in Syria
which the mainstream media, neocons, and Hillary supporters thought
was so grand.
Putin loves this kind of crap, he's like a smarter and more conniving
version of Lil Kim.
It seems that while NATO was engaging in war "games" in Abkhasia, a
munitions depot exploded. Is it a coincidence, or payback?

http://www.defenseworld.net/news/20135/Ammunition_Depot_Explodes_In_Abkhazia__Killing_2__Injuring_60#.WYNWJoSVvQo

https://sputniknews.com/world/201708031056136037-abkhazia-munitions-blastinjures-sixty/


sputniknews.com
Abkhazia Munitions Depot Blast Injures 60
Sputnik
2 minutes
World

07:56 03.08.2017Get short URL

A Health Ministry spokesman said that a blast at a munitions depot in
Abkhazia, a former Georgian territory, has injured 60 people, some of
them gravely.

© Sputnik/ Sergey Pyatakov

MOSCOW (Sputnik) — A blast at a munitions depot in Abkhazia, a former
Georgian territory, has injured 60 people, some of them gravely, a
Health Ministry spokesman told Sputnik.

The explosion tore through the depot in the village of Primorskoye on
Wednesday afternoon. The blaze was put out late at night and detonations
stopped.

"The latest estimate is 60 injured, including two children. The majority
received light to moderate injuries. Two or three people were seriously
hurt but there is no risk to their lives," Rustam Zantaria said late on
Wednesday.

The official added that the majority of those hurt were holidaymakers
taking mud baths at a nearby hot Sulfur spring. They received cuts from
shrapnel, glass shards and rocks that the blast wave carried.

The Russian Embassy in Abkhazia said on Facebook that 35 Russian
tourists had been injured in the blast, 27 of them required hospitalization.
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Seaview
2017-08-03 17:18:43 UTC
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Post by Steve from Colorado
Check out the fireworks. Total destruction of Ukrainian munitions,
including rockets. This is a game changer in warfare.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/news/a27511/russia-drone-thermite-grenade-ukraine-ammo/
Not good at all.
Putin advances.
Well, Vlad did warn the West that they'd better not put NATO right on
the border with Russia.
True enough.
Post by Steve from Colorado
This is the explosion heard 'round the world (unless you don't read
Popular Mechanics) and sends a message to Latvia, Lithuania, and
Estonia that letting NATO stockpile munitions in their countries near
the Russian motherland is, literally, like playing with fire.
Yurop's Cuban missile crisis, so to speak.
Post by Steve from Colorado
Judging by the video of the explosions from an apartment building 5
miles away - I'd conjecture that the little drone with it's thermite
grenade cause more explosive damage than the Japs caused at Pearl
Harbor. Yes, Putin "advances" from the standpoint that Ukraine got
hit and got hit hard. This might make the Visigrad nations a little
nervous about welcoming NATO into their sovereign nations, along with
their nervousness about Brussels and Berlin wanting to wage
demographic warfare against them vis a vis the "refugee crisis."
This was payback for the American missile strike on Russian bases in
Syria which the mainstream media, neocons, and Hillary supporters
thought was so grand.
Putin loves this kind of crap, he's like a smarter and more conniving
version of Lil Kim.
It seems that while NATO was engaging in war "games" in Abkhasia, a
munitions depot exploded. Is it a coincidence, or payback?
I vote: payback.

Coincidence is widely overstated in geopolitics.
Post by Steve from Colorado
http://www.defenseworld.net/news/20135/Ammunition_Depot_Explodes_In_Abkhazia__Killing_2__Injuring_60#.WYNWJoSVvQo
https://sputniknews.com/world/201708031056136037-abkhazia-munitions-blastinjures-sixty/
sputniknews.com
Abkhazia Munitions Depot Blast Injures 60
Sputnik
2 minutes
World
07:56 03.08.2017Get short URL
A Health Ministry spokesman said that a blast at a munitions depot in
Abkhazia, a former Georgian territory, has injured 60 people, some of
them gravely.
© Sputnik/ Sergey Pyatakov
MOSCOW (Sputnik) — A blast at a munitions depot in Abkhazia, a former
Georgian territory, has injured 60 people, some of them gravely, a
Health Ministry spokesman told Sputnik.
The explosion tore through the depot in the village of Primorskoye on
Wednesday afternoon. The blaze was put out late at night and detonations
stopped.
"The latest estimate is 60 injured, including two children. The majority
received light to moderate injuries. Two or three people were seriously
hurt but there is no risk to their lives," Rustam Zantaria said late on
Wednesday.
The official added that the majority of those hurt were holidaymakers
taking mud baths at a nearby hot Sulfur spring. They received cuts from
shrapnel, glass shards and rocks that the blast wave carried.
The Russian Embassy in Abkhazia said on Facebook that 35 Russian
tourists had been injured in the blast, 27 of them required
hospitalization.
Steve from Colorado
2017-08-07 23:45:26 UTC
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Post by Steve from Colorado
Check out the fireworks. Total destruction of Ukrainian munitions,
including rockets. This is a game changer in warfare.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/news/a27511/russia-drone-thermite-grenade-ukraine-ammo/
Not good at all.
Putin advances.
I would imagine there's a connection with this new decree by the US Army:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-military-drone-idUSKBN1AN2BP


reuters.com
Military can destroy drones over domestic U.S. bases: Pentagon
2 Min Read
2-3 minutes

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Pentagon has given more than 130 U.S.
military bases across the United States the green light to shoot down
private and commercial drones that could endanger aviation safety or
pose other threats.

The number of uncrewed aircraft in U.S. skies has zoomed in recent years
and continues to increase rapidly - along with concern among U.S. and
private-sector officials that dangerous or even hostile drones could get
too close to places like military bases, airports and sports stadiums.

While the specific actions that the U.S. military can take against
drones are classified, they include destroying or seizing private and
commercial drones that pose a threat, Pentagon spokesman Navy Captain
Jeff Davis told reporters on Monday.

The classified guidelines were distributed early last month. The
Pentagon sent out unclassified guidance on how to communicate the policy
to communities on Friday.

"The increase of commercial and private drones in the United States has
raised our concerns with regards to the safety and security of our
installations, aviation safety and the safety of people," Davis said.

In April, flights of nearly all drones over 133 U.S. military facilities
were banned due to security concerns.

Drones have become popular as toys and with hobbyists, and have
commercial uses such as aerial photography. Amazon.com Inc (AMZN.O) and
Alphabet Inc's Google unit (GOOGL.O) have been exploring the use of
drones to deliver goods ordered online.

The FAA estimated the commercial drone fleet would grow from 42,000 at
the end of 2016 to about 442,000 aircraft by 2021. The FAA said there
could be as many as 1.6 million commercial drones in use by 2021.

Reporting by Idrees Ali; Editing by Jonathan Oatis
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rbowman
2017-08-08 02:10:06 UTC
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Post by Steve from Colorado
While the specific actions that the U.S. military can take against
drones are classified, they include destroying or seizing private and
commercial drones that pose a threat, Pentagon spokesman Navy Captain
Jeff Davis told reporters on Monday.
We'll see how they handle swarms. Drones are cheap.
betweentheeyes
2017-07-28 12:15:33 UTC
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Post by Steve from Colorado
Check out the fireworks. Total destruction of Ukrainian
munitions, including rockets. This is a game changer in warfare.
Why is it a 'game changer'?
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Spain
2017-07-28 21:36:46 UTC
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Post by Steve from Colorado
Check out the fireworks. Total destruction of Ukrainian
munitions, including rockets. This is a game changer in warfare.
Why is it a 'game changer'?
Apparently you didn't watch the video. It's a game changer like what
resulted after Washington supplied Stinger Missiles to the Mujahadeen in
Afghanistan back in the '80s. The Goldman Sachs puppet government in
Kiev has been put on notice that they will pay dearly for inviting NATO
into the parts of the country still under their control. Russia is not
Libya and Putin will not go away like Ghadaffi did. The video will
provide all the more reason not to live next to a munitions depot or
chemical plant. Remember Bhopal?
And guess who had plans to frack the Ukraine....Chevron...


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ukraine-chevron-idUSBRE9A40ML20131105

Ukraine signs $10 billion shale gas deal with Chevron

KIEV (Reuters) - Ukraine signed a $10 billion shale gas
production-sharing agreement with U.S. Chevron (CVX.N) on Tuesday,
another step in a drive for more energy independence from Russia.

The deal to develop its western Olesska field followed a similar shale
gas agreement with Royal Dutch Shell (RDSa.L) in January and boosts
Ukraine's leadership at a time of fraught relations with Moscow over gas
supplies.

"The agreements with Shell and Chevron ... will enable us to have full
sufficiency in gas by 2020 and, under an optimistic scenario, even
enable us to export energy," President Viktor Yanukovich told investors
shortly before the signing.

The highest end of expectations for Olesska's potential reserves would
match around three years of European Union gas demand, but similarly
sunny hopes for shale reserves in neighboring Poland have been very
sharply downsized.

Shale development in Europe is far behind the booming U.S. sector and
progress is patchy. Chevron pulled out of a shale exploration tender in
Lithuania and has suspended work at a Romanian shale well after local
protests.

Ukraine Energy Minister Eduart Stavytsky, who signed the deal with
Chevron executive Derek Magness, set it in the context of a high price
Ukraine pays Russia for its gas.


Now which Goldman Sachs brain stem thought Putin would be happy to lose
revenues from the Ukraine?

Sheesh!

You will recall their plans for Afghanistan too, yes?


https://www.chevron.com/stories/unocal-reiterates-position-on-withdrawal-from-transafghanistan-pipeline-project

Unocal reiterates position on withdrawal from trans-Afghanistan pipeline
project
El Segundo, Calif., Feb. 16, 1999 - Unocal Corporation today reiterated
that it no longer has any role in developing or funding the proposed
CentGas pipeline project across Afghanistan.

The company stated that it is not considering rejoining the CentGas
consortium, nor has the company had any discussions with persons or
entities anywhere about re-entering the project since Unocal formally
withdrew from CentGas in December 1998 (See Unocal statement, Dec. 10,
1998).

Unocal issued this statement after an erroneous press report from
Islamabad, Pakistan, quoted Pakistani officials who indicated that
Unocal was showing an interest in rejoining the consortium.
Siri Cruise
2017-07-28 23:23:41 UTC
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Post by Steve from Colorado
Check out the fireworks. Total destruction of Ukrainian
munitions, including rockets. This is a game changer in warfare.
Why is it a 'game changer'?
Not for armies that store munitions in bunkers. For a little while, a mere five
centuries, armies realised their munitions had a disturbing premature
ejaculation when they got too hot. So weapon depots were designed to separate
their munitions to many separate piles, surrounded by stone then reinforced
concrete. They were also designed that when a bunker did explode it would
explode away from other bunkers.

Navies also applied those principles to ammunition magazines. That's why the
destruction of the Arizona is confounding: the forward magazine should have
survived that bomb. I also recently learn the ammunition in an M1 turret is
stored behind a steel door. If the store detonates, it supposed to release out
the back of the turret instead of into the crew.

Only small quantities of ammunition should be unprotected.
Post by Spain
Afghanistan back in the '80s. The Goldman Sachs puppet government in
Kiev has been put on notice that they will pay dearly for inviting NATO
Wow. Not only have you have elevated Russia to be the heroes, you have also made
Ukraine the villians. That's just....just.....amazing.
Post by Spain
And guess who had plans to frack the Ukraine....Chevron...
So we no longer care if Iran sells its oil to China instead of us?
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Spain
2017-07-29 16:29:36 UTC
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Post by Steve from Colorado
Check out the fireworks. Total destruction of Ukrainian
munitions, including rockets. This is a game changer in warfare.
Why is it a 'game changer'?
Not for armies
-snip- watch your attributions, cunt.
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Post by Spain
Afghanistan back in the '80s. The Goldman Sachs puppet government in
Kiev has been put on notice that they will pay dearly for inviting NATO
Wow. Not only have you have elevated Russia to be the heroes, you have also made
Ukraine the villians. That's just....just.....amazing.
Wow, you have just written your own script, meth whore - fuck off and die.
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Post by Spain
And guess who had plans to frack the Ukraine....Chevron...
So we no longer care if Iran sells its oil to China instead of us?
Are you on drugs?

https://tradingeconomics.com/iran/exports-by-country

Value Year
China $5.29B 2011
Iraq $4.65B 2011
United Arab Emirates $4.27B 2011
India $2.59B 2011
Afghanistan $1.88B 2011
Turkey $1.41B 2011
Singapore $1.21B 2011
Indonesia $1.14B 2011
South Korea $1.12B 2011
Pakistan $576.64M 2011
Japan $548.16M 2011
Turkmenistan $477.49M 2011
Syria $475.74M 2011
Azerbaijan $434.99M 2011
Germany $393.87M 2011
Russia $375.74M 2011
Belgium $316.25M 2011
Italy $259.44M 2011
Hong Kong $255.66M 2011
Netherlands $238.03M 2011
Philippines $183.33M 2011
Vietnam $180.40M 2011
Tajikistan $180.28M 2011
Spain $156.89M 2011
Malaysia $133.99M 2011

See the USA on that list, whore?

No?

Fuck of and DIE, cunt!

http://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/profile/country/irn/

Iran is the 60th largest export economy in the world. In 2015, Iran
exported $31.8B and imported $43.9B, resulting in a negative trade
balance of $12.2B.

The top exports of Iran are Crude Petroleum ($18.3B), Ethylene Polymers
($2.4B), Acyclic Alcohols ($1.27B), Other Nuts ($830M) and Peat ($694M),
using the 1992 revision of the HS (Harmonized System) classification.
Its top imports are Cars ($1.47B), Corn ($936M), Vehicle Parts ($932M),
Jewellery ($885M) and Flat Flat-Rolled Steel ($860M).

The top export destinations of Iran are China ($14.5B), India ($5.66B),
Japan ($2.89B), South Korea ($2.11B) and Turkey ($1.3B). The top import
origins are China ($17.8B), South Korea ($3.76B), Turkey ($3.62B), India
($3.13B) and Germany ($2.19B).
rbowman
2017-07-29 01:38:42 UTC
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Ukraine Energy Minister Eduart Stavytsky, who signed the deal with
Chevron executive Derek Magness, set it in the context of a high price
Ukraine pays Russia for its gas.
Russia is trying to make up for all the gas Ukraine stole...
Spain
2017-07-29 16:41:04 UTC
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Ukraine Energy Minister Eduart Stavytsky, who signed the deal with
Chevron executive Derek Magness, set it in the context of a high price
Ukraine pays Russia for its gas.
Russia is trying to make up for all the gas Ukraine stole...
They didn't want to lose their key customer, no shocker.
rbowman
2017-07-29 18:03:59 UTC
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Ukraine Energy Minister Eduart Stavytsky, who signed the deal with
Chevron executive Derek Magness, set it in the context of a high price
Ukraine pays Russia for its gas.
Russia is trying to make up for all the gas Ukraine stole...
They didn't want to lose their key customer, no shocker.
Their key customers are further west. France and Germany love their
Russian energy and trade and are not impressed by US sanctions that are
going to impact their economies. The days of the US saying "jump" and
Europe saying "How high?" are over.
Klaus Schadenfreude
2017-07-29 18:10:00 UTC
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Ukraine Energy Minister Eduart Stavytsky, who signed the deal with
Chevron executive Derek Magness, set it in the context of a high price
Ukraine pays Russia for its gas.
Russia is trying to make up for all the gas Ukraine stole...
They didn't want to lose their key customer, no shocker.
Their key customers are further west. France and Germany love their
Russian energy and trade and are not impressed by US sanctions that are
going to impact their economies. The days of the US saying "jump" and
Europe saying "How high?" are over.
Let's hope so. Time to close all US bases and sites there and come
home. 181 bases in Germany alone.

http://www.acq.osd.mil/eie/Downloads/BSI/Base%20Structure%20Report%20FY15.pdf

The military will need the money for sex-change operations for its
soldiers.
Spain
2017-07-29 18:30:11 UTC
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Ukraine Energy Minister Eduart Stavytsky, who signed the deal with
Chevron executive Derek Magness, set it in the context of a high price
Ukraine pays Russia for its gas.
Russia is trying to make up for all the gas Ukraine stole...
They didn't want to lose their key customer, no shocker.
Their key customers are further west. France and Germany love their
Russian energy and trade and are not impressed by US sanctions that are
going to impact their economies. The days of the US saying "jump" and
Europe saying "How high?" are over.
Let's hope so. Time to close all US bases and sites there and come
home.
YES!
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
181 bases in Germany alone.
http://www.acq.osd.mil/eie/Downloads/BSI/Base%20Structure%20Report%20FY15.pdf
The military will need the money for sex-change operations for its
soldiers.
A whopping 1.3 billion$$$ a year by estimates I have seen.
Scout
2017-07-29 19:11:31 UTC
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Ukraine Energy Minister Eduart Stavytsky, who signed the deal with
Chevron executive Derek Magness, set it in the context of a high price
Ukraine pays Russia for its gas.
Russia is trying to make up for all the gas Ukraine stole...
They didn't want to lose their key customer, no shocker.
Their key customers are further west. France and Germany love their
Russian energy and trade and are not impressed by US sanctions that are
going to impact their economies. The days of the US saying "jump" and
Europe saying "How high?" are over.
Let's hope so. Time to close all US bases and sites there and come
home. 181 bases in Germany alone.
Ah, but technically, we're still at war with Germany.....

Which is something, IMO, we should do something about even if it's only a
formality.
rbowman
2017-07-30 03:50:53 UTC
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Ah, but technically, we're still at war with Germany.....
After Versailles the Germans might be hesitant to sign anything.
Spain
2017-07-30 04:01:26 UTC
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Ah, but technically, we're still at war with Germany.....
After Versailles the Germans might be hesitant to sign anything.
Save for their own societal death warrant by continuing to elect Angela
Merkel, the globalist refugee import machine.
rbowman
2017-07-30 18:05:51 UTC
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Ah, but technically, we're still at war with Germany.....
After Versailles the Germans might be hesitant to sign anything.
Save for their own societal death warrant by continuing to elect Angela
Merkel, the globalist refugee import machine.
The AdF is trying but it's an uphill fight. Seventy years of guilt is
enough; it's time to start manufacturing little yellow crescents to sew
on the enemy.
Siri Cruise
2017-07-30 08:07:53 UTC
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Ah, but technically, we're still at war with Germany.....
After Versailles the Germans might be hesitant to sign anything.
The war ended in 1989. USSR, US, UK, and France settled matters with Germany
and ended the occupation.
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rbowman
2017-07-30 18:10:02 UTC
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Ah, but technically, we're still at war with Germany.....
After Versailles the Germans might be hesitant to sign anything.
The war ended in 1989. USSR, US, UK, and France settled matters with Germany
and ended the occupation.
Right. Except for the 50 or so bases. How many active bases does Germany
have in the US?
Siri Cruise
2017-07-30 23:16:49 UTC
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Ah, but technically, we're still at war with Germany.....
After Versailles the Germans might be hesitant to sign anything.
The war ended in 1989. USSR, US, UK, and France settled matters with Germany
and ended the occupation.
Right. Except for the 50 or so bases. How many active bases does Germany
have in the US?
Those aren't for occupation. They are guests of Germany for NATO. Just like the
bases in ROK.

Okinawa bases are on territory seized from Japan. Japan has no say in their
presence.
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rbowman
2017-07-30 23:54:44 UTC
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Post by Scout
Ah, but technically, we're still at war with Germany.....
After Versailles the Germans might be hesitant to sign anything.
The war ended in 1989. USSR, US, UK, and France settled matters with Germany
and ended the occupation.
Right. Except for the 50 or so bases. How many active bases does Germany
have in the US?
Those aren't for occupation. They are guests of Germany for NATO. Just like the
bases in ROK.
So if Mutti Merkel say "Auf wiedersehen!" they would just say "Yes,
Ma'am" pack up and go home?
PaxPerPoten
2017-07-31 09:04:32 UTC
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Post by Scout
Ah, but technically, we're still at war with Germany.....
After Versailles the Germans might be hesitant to sign anything.
The war ended in 1989. USSR, US, UK, and France settled matters with Germany
and ended the occupation.
Right. Except for the 50 or so bases. How many active bases does Germany
have in the US?
Those aren't for occupation. They are guests of Germany for NATO. Just like the
bases in ROK.
So if Mutti Merkel say "Auf wiedersehen!" they would just say "Yes,
Ma'am" pack up and go home?
Much more complicated then that...Gotta abrogate a bunch of treaties
etc.. But basically Yes...Pack up and go home!
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be good masters, *but they mean to be masters*. Daniel Webster
PaxPerPoten
2017-07-31 09:02:34 UTC
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Post by Scout
Ah, but technically, we're still at war with Germany.....
After Versailles the Germans might be hesitant to sign anything.
The war ended in 1989. USSR, US, UK, and France settled matters with Germany
and ended the occupation.
Right. Except for the 50 or so bases. How many active bases does Germany
have in the US?
Those aren't for occupation. They are guests of Germany for NATO. Just like the
bases in ROK.
Okinawa bases are on territory seized from Japan. Japan has no say in their
presence.
Oh yeah...They do... Okinawa brings suit against the Japanese Government
on a regular basis to get them removed. In fact the Navy base has moved
to a built up portion on the sea bed to appease the Okinawans...But they
just ain't happy. That is where China got the idea of building additon's
to Islands in the South China seas.
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It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard
the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all
ages who mean to govern well, but *They mean to govern*. They promise to
be good masters, *but they mean to be masters*. Daniel Webster
Scout
2017-07-31 09:07:25 UTC
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Post by Scout
Ah, but technically, we're still at war with Germany.....
After Versailles the Germans might be hesitant to sign anything.
The war ended in 1989. USSR, US, UK, and France settled matters with Germany
and ended the occupation.
No, that only addressed it's unification and sovereignty.....there has NEVER
been a peace treated signed by German.

Thus technically the war has never ended....we are simply in a greatly
extended cease fire.
Spain
2017-07-29 18:29:19 UTC
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Ukraine Energy Minister Eduart Stavytsky, who signed the deal with
Chevron executive Derek Magness, set it in the context of a high price
Ukraine pays Russia for its gas.
Russia is trying to make up for all the gas Ukraine stole...
They didn't want to lose their key customer, no shocker.
Their key customers are further west.
Many are, but Ukraine as I cited IS a key customer.
Post by rbowman
France and Germany love their
Russian energy and trade and are not impressed by US sanctions that are
going to impact their economies.
Germany green-energy'd themselves into needing relief when solar and
wind do not produce.
Post by rbowman
The days of the US saying "jump" and
Europe saying "How high?" are over.
So should our military presence there be.
Steve from Colorado
2017-07-30 17:52:59 UTC
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Post by Steve from Colorado
Check out the fireworks. Total destruction of Ukrainian
munitions, including rockets. This is a game changer in warfare.
Why is it a 'game changer'?
Because someone can order a drone from Amazon for a few hundred bucks
and destroy millions of dollars of materiel? Obama has a fondness for
drone assassinations; was he stupid enough to think other people
couldn't figure out how to do it?
Hillbilly cruise missile?
;-)
Now even a redneck Okie can have a cruise missile that is effective.
:-D
Now there can be thousands of Timothy McVeigh wannabes each with their
their own grenade-carrying-drone enacting "revenge" against some hated
agency of the government, Lavoy Finnicum-style. Or maybe they'll just
be patsies for someone in the deep state with an agenda / fantasy to
enact out. knowwhatI'msaying.
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Steve from Colorado
2017-07-31 23:13:23 UTC
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Post by Steve from Colorado
Check out the fireworks. Total destruction of Ukrainian
munitions, including rockets. This is a game changer in
warfare.
Why is it a 'game changer'?
Apparently you didn't watch the video.
Apparently you are incapable of predicting what I do.
It's a game changer like
what resulted after Washington supplied Stinger Missiles to the
Mujahadeen in Afghanistan back in the '80s.
Proved my point. Those missiles are government tools to further
the cause of the government that created them. Not a 'game
changer', just another tool of a government that seeks to control
people.
So you don't consider a device that allowed relatively primitive Afghani
tribesmen to defeat a superpower and bring down the USSR a "game changer?"
The Goldman Sachs
puppet government in Kiev has been put on notice that they will
pay dearly for inviting NATO into the parts of the country still
under their control. Russia is not Libya and Putin will not go
away like Ghadaffi did. The video will provide all the more
reason not to live next to a munitions depot or chemical plant.
Remember Bhopal?
Again, proved my point.
I was just stating the obvious.
Sabotage has occurred for hundreds of years without 'drones' and
will continue to occur for hundreds more, with or without 'drones'.
Regarding "anybody's reach", governments are the ONLY users of
drones that choose to attach Air to Ground missiles and those
delivery devices are only in the realm of governments' unlimited
finances.
Terrorists groups big and small bent on destroying "forest fires,
refineries, fuel dumps big and small, explosives and chemical
plants, power grid nodes" will continue to convert civilians, and
Military personnel into mules to accomplish the delivery. It all
boils down to cost effectiveness and capability.
Drones are NOT a game changer. They ARE yet another tool created
by government to further the goals of the government that created
them.
Drones like you buy at Best Buy or Walmart were hardly a tool created by
government. They were created by the better batteries, electric motors,
and smartphone technology and a desire to own them by consumers. You
tube videos were showing some Russian guy who had attached an Uzi to a
quad-coptor drone and was shooting up a Chevrolet Impala with plastic
explosives inside. You don't need to use a parental tone and try to be
the final word on the matter.
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Steve from Colorado
2017-08-02 22:15:28 UTC
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Post by Steve from Colorado
Check out the fireworks. Total destruction of Ukrainian
munitions, including rockets. This is a game changer in
warfare.
Why is it a 'game changer'?
Because it puts ground attack from the air within almost
anybody's reach and ammo dumps are just one amongst many targets
of opportunity. Think forest fires, refineries, fuel dumps big
and small, explosives and chemical plants, power grid nodes,
etc.) I wonder how much time it is going to take before we see
these used in North America.
Chasseur
Sabotage has occurred for hundreds of years without 'drones' and will
continue to occur for hundreds more, with or without 'drones'.
Regarding "anybody's reach", governments are the ONLY users of drones
that choose to attach Air to Ground missiles and those delivery
devices are only in the realm of governments' unlimited finances.
Terrorists groups big and small bent on destroying "forest fires,
refineries, fuel dumps big and small, explosives and chemical plants,
power grid nodes" will continue to convert civilians, and Military
personnel into mules to accomplish the delivery. It all boils down
to cost effectiveness and capability.
Drones are NOT a game changer. They ARE yet another tool created by
government to further the goals of the government that created them.
Time will tell. An on-foot tango takes a much higher level of risk
approaching his target on foot whereas a drone can be operated from a
distance making an op much safer for personel. That is the reason so
much is invested in all types of pilotless ground, sea and air vehicles
being developed not to mention the huge recon advantages they provide.
That line of tactical reasoning is as valid for terrs or other criminal
elements as it is for governments. Case in point civilian drones, out of
the box or modified are already used to deliver cross border contraband
(drugs and handguns). Case in point at least one major internet retailer
has an on going experimental goods delivery by drone program presently.
If you add to that the fact that civilian drones are very inexpensive
relatively speaking, there is a high probability they will be a game
changer.
Chasseur
I was searching with duckduckgo for links to the case where a remote
control drone was used to place radioactive materials on the roof of a
Japanese government building, and noticed the site that it sent me to
also seems to be in the business of creating drone-free spaces for
security reasons. I guess private enterprise is going to make money off
of drone prevention the way anti-virus software companies capitalize on
preventing viruses. It's a win-win for both the drone manufacturers and
the anti-drone deep state business.

https://www.dedrone.com/en/newsroom/blog-detail/japan-radioactive-drone-lands-on-roof-of-government-building
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Scout
2017-08-02 23:02:49 UTC
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Post by Steve from Colorado
Post by betweentheeyes
Post by Steve from Colorado
Check out the fireworks. Total destruction of Ukrainian
munitions, including rockets. This is a game changer in
warfare.
Why is it a 'game changer'?
Because it puts ground attack from the air within almost
anybody's reach and ammo dumps are just one amongst many targets
of opportunity. Think forest fires, refineries, fuel dumps big
and small, explosives and chemical plants, power grid nodes,
etc.) I wonder how much time it is going to take before we see
these used in North America.
Chasseur
Sabotage has occurred for hundreds of years without 'drones' and will
continue to occur for hundreds more, with or without 'drones'.
Regarding "anybody's reach", governments are the ONLY users of drones
that choose to attach Air to Ground missiles and those delivery
devices are only in the realm of governments' unlimited finances.
Terrorists groups big and small bent on destroying "forest fires,
refineries, fuel dumps big and small, explosives and chemical plants,
power grid nodes" will continue to convert civilians, and Military
personnel into mules to accomplish the delivery. It all boils down
to cost effectiveness and capability.
Drones are NOT a game changer. They ARE yet another tool created by
government to further the goals of the government that created them.
Time will tell. An on-foot tango takes a much higher level of risk
approaching his target on foot whereas a drone can be operated from a
distance making an op much safer for personel. That is the reason so much
is invested in all types of pilotless ground, sea and air vehicles being
developed not to mention the huge recon advantages they provide. That
line of tactical reasoning is as valid for terrs or other criminal
elements as it is for governments. Case in point civilian drones, out of
the box or modified are already used to deliver cross border contraband
(drugs and handguns). Case in point at least one major internet retailer
has an on going experimental goods delivery by drone program presently.
If you add to that the fact that civilian drones are very inexpensive
relatively speaking, there is a high probability they will be a game
changer.
Chasseur
I was searching with duckduckgo for links to the case where a remote
control drone was used to place radioactive materials on the roof of a
Japanese government building, and noticed the site that it sent me to also
seems to be in the business of creating drone-free spaces for security
reasons. I guess private enterprise is going to make money off of drone
prevention the way anti-virus software companies capitalize on preventing
viruses. It's a win-win for both the drone manufacturers and the
anti-drone deep state business.
https://www.dedrone.com/en/newsroom/blog-detail/japan-radioactive-drone-lands-on-roof-of-government-building
Use wide range RF jamming and optical barricades and any drone that depends
on remote guidance and/or GPS would be ineffective the moment it entered the
protected zone. The optical barricades could also mimic structures and
perspectives within the area to fool and confuse any sort of optical
recognition system. You could also deploy active and passive defenses to
entangle, blind, shoot down, or otherwise render drones ineffective.

Add in a change of how things are constructed so such attacks as drones can
engage in are cofferdammed thus limiting damage to non-key or non-critical
areas.

Ultimately you need a layered defense, with each layer protected the
vulnerabilities of the prior layers, and then minimizing the damage that
could result should something manage to get through anyway.
Gunner Asch
2017-08-06 22:16:20 UTC
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Post by Scout
Post by Steve from Colorado
Post by betweentheeyes
Post by Steve from Colorado
Check out the fireworks. Total destruction of Ukrainian
munitions, including rockets. This is a game changer in
warfare.
Why is it a 'game changer'?
Because it puts ground attack from the air within almost
anybody's reach and ammo dumps are just one amongst many targets
of opportunity. Think forest fires, refineries, fuel dumps big
and small, explosives and chemical plants, power grid nodes,
etc.) I wonder how much time it is going to take before we see
these used in North America.
Chasseur
Sabotage has occurred for hundreds of years without 'drones' and will
continue to occur for hundreds more, with or without 'drones'.
Regarding "anybody's reach", governments are the ONLY users of drones
that choose to attach Air to Ground missiles and those delivery
devices are only in the realm of governments' unlimited finances.
Terrorists groups big and small bent on destroying "forest fires,
refineries, fuel dumps big and small, explosives and chemical plants,
power grid nodes" will continue to convert civilians, and Military
personnel into mules to accomplish the delivery. It all boils down
to cost effectiveness and capability.
Drones are NOT a game changer. They ARE yet another tool created by
government to further the goals of the government that created them.
Time will tell. An on-foot tango takes a much higher level of risk
approaching his target on foot whereas a drone can be operated from a
distance making an op much safer for personel. That is the reason so much
is invested in all types of pilotless ground, sea and air vehicles being
developed not to mention the huge recon advantages they provide. That
line of tactical reasoning is as valid for terrs or other criminal
elements as it is for governments. Case in point civilian drones, out of
the box or modified are already used to deliver cross border contraband
(drugs and handguns). Case in point at least one major internet retailer
has an on going experimental goods delivery by drone program presently.
If you add to that the fact that civilian drones are very inexpensive
relatively speaking, there is a high probability they will be a game
changer.
Chasseur
I was searching with duckduckgo for links to the case where a remote
control drone was used to place radioactive materials on the roof of a
Japanese government building, and noticed the site that it sent me to also
seems to be in the business of creating drone-free spaces for security
reasons. I guess private enterprise is going to make money off of drone
prevention the way anti-virus software companies capitalize on preventing
viruses. It's a win-win for both the drone manufacturers and the
anti-drone deep state business.
https://www.dedrone.com/en/newsroom/blog-detail/japan-radioactive-drone-lands-on-roof-of-government-building
Use wide range RF jamming and optical barricades and any drone that depends
on remote guidance and/or GPS would be ineffective the moment it entered the
protected zone. The optical barricades could also mimic structures and
perspectives within the area to fool and confuse any sort of optical
recognition system. You could also deploy active and passive defenses to
entangle, blind, shoot down, or otherwise render drones ineffective.
Add in a change of how things are constructed so such attacks as drones can
engage in are cofferdammed thus limiting damage to non-key or non-critical
areas.
Ultimately you need a layered defense, with each layer protected the
vulnerabilities of the prior layers, and then minimizing the damage that
could result should something manage to get through anyway.
True indeed. Well written.


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2017-08-06 22:17:00 UTC
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Post by Gunner Asch
Post by Scout
Ultimately you need a layered defense, with each layer protected the
vulnerabilities of the prior layers, and then minimizing the damage that
could result should something manage to get through anyway.
True indeed. Well written.
Why are you forging Gunner, tRudey?
chasseur
2017-08-02 23:31:57 UTC
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Post by Steve from Colorado
Post by betweentheeyes
Post by Steve from Colorado
Check out the fireworks. Total destruction of Ukrainian
munitions, including rockets. This is a game changer in
warfare.
Why is it a 'game changer'?
Because it puts ground attack from the air within almost
anybody's reach and ammo dumps are just one amongst many targets
of opportunity. Think forest fires, refineries, fuel dumps big
and small, explosives and chemical plants, power grid nodes,
etc.) I wonder how much time it is going to take before we see
these used in North America.
Chasseur
Sabotage has occurred for hundreds of years without 'drones' and will
continue to occur for hundreds more, with or without 'drones'.
Regarding "anybody's reach", governments are the ONLY users of drones
that choose to attach Air to Ground missiles and those delivery
devices are only in the realm of governments' unlimited finances.
Terrorists groups big and small bent on destroying "forest fires,
refineries, fuel dumps big and small, explosives and chemical plants,
power grid nodes" will continue to convert civilians, and Military
personnel into mules to accomplish the delivery. It all boils down
to cost effectiveness and capability.
Drones are NOT a game changer. They ARE yet another tool created by
government to further the goals of the government that created them.
Time will tell. An on-foot tango takes a much higher level of risk
approaching his target on foot whereas a drone can be operated from a
distance making an op much safer for personel. That is the reason so
much is invested in all types of pilotless ground, sea and air
vehicles being developed not to mention the huge recon advantages they
provide. That line of tactical reasoning is as valid for terrs or
other criminal elements as it is for governments. Case in point
civilian drones, out of the box or modified are already used to
deliver cross border contraband (drugs and handguns). Case in point at
least one major internet retailer has an on going experimental goods
delivery by drone program presently. If you add to that the fact that
civilian drones are very inexpensive relatively speaking, there is a
high probability they will be a game changer.
Chasseur
I was searching with duckduckgo for links to the case where a remote
control drone was used to place radioactive materials on the roof of a
Japanese government building, and noticed the site that it sent me to
also seems to be in the business of creating drone-free spaces for
security reasons. I guess private enterprise is going to make money off
of drone prevention the way anti-virus software companies capitalize on
preventing viruses. It's a win-win for both the drone manufacturers and
the anti-drone deep state business.
https://www.dedrone.com/en/newsroom/blog-detail/japan-radioactive-drone-lands-on-roof-of-government-building
There are already hand held civilian drone shortwave jammers on the
market and you can bet that the military, considering the impact for
example of small battlefield recon drones, has systems based on a
mixture of radio location of the telemetry sent by drones and high
definition low horizon radar that directly command jamming EM beams or
tactical lasers to deal with the threat. As usual the problem is you
can't be everywhere all the time, at least not presently, hence the
foreseeable rise in the use of drones by unsavory types, especially on
low security non hardened high impact civilian targets. In fact, it is
rather surprising that their use has not been more frequent, something
that is bound to change IMO.I can readily imagine a few bad scenarios
where you would not even need to produce casualties, just enough panic
to achieve interdiction of important civilian facilities and the
consequent havoc. IMO, your outline of the « economic » opportunities
are also correct.

Chasseur
Steve from Colorado
2017-08-05 00:17:13 UTC
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Post by Steve from Colorado
https://www.dedrone.com/en/newsroom/blog-detail/japan-
radioactive-drone-lands-on-roof-of-government-building
I can see it now.
Mini stinger missile batteries setup to automatically shoot down
drones that enter their air space.
Camera guided guns that fire BBs at the drone, along with their own
drones that engage enemy drones and shoot it down.
I read a report a year or two ago that one of the Scandinavian
countries is trying to teach eagles to capture drones. Police project
if I recall correctly.
I see a thriving market in used drones. Capture them by any number of
means, do any equivalent of filing off the serial number, and sell
them on the black market. New equivalent of the stolen gun used for
one crime and discarded.
Useful to burglars to watch properties to establish patterns.
Saw a youtube four or five years ago of a small drone carrying a 1911.
Fired several shots, absorbed the recoil, and returned to position for
the next shot. Not much more to it than a remotely controlled solenoid
to pull the trigger. Add a camera and AI to replace the remote
trigger. Great for contract killing and soon cheap enough for gang
warfare. Next years' model will be a flying AR15 with full auto.
Drop a cherry bomb down your teachers' fireplace chimney to harass
him.
The illicit uses are endless. (And a hell of a lot of fun ;>)
Here is a fun use.

LOL! It would be scarier with a thermite grenade in it.
BTW
This page downloads you tube as a file on your drive.
http://keepvid.com/pop-up
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Gunner Asch
2017-08-06 22:24:47 UTC
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Post by Steve from Colorado
Post by Steve from Colorado
Post by Steve from Colorado
https://www.dedrone.com/en/newsroom/blog-detail/japan-
radioactive-drone-lands-on-roof-of-government-building
I can see it now.
Mini stinger missile batteries setup to automatically shoot down
drones that enter their air space.
Camera guided guns that fire BBs at the drone, along with their own
drones that engage enemy drones and shoot it down.
I read a report a year or two ago that one of the Scandinavian
countries is trying to teach eagles to capture drones. Police project
if I recall correctly.
I see a thriving market in used drones. Capture them by any number of
means, do any equivalent of filing off the serial number, and sell
them on the black market. New equivalent of the stolen gun used for
one crime and discarded.
Useful to burglars to watch properties to establish patterns.
Saw a youtube four or five years ago of a small drone carrying a 1911.
Fired several shots, absorbed the recoil, and returned to position for
the next shot. Not much more to it than a remotely controlled solenoid
to pull the trigger. Add a camera and AI to replace the remote
trigger. Great for contract killing and soon cheap enough for gang
warfare. Next years' model will be a flying AR15 with full auto.
Drop a cherry bomb down your teachers' fireplace chimney to harass
him.
The illicit uses are endless. (And a hell of a lot of fun ;>)
Here is a fun use.
http://youtu.be/V_LC_jmTmas
LOL! It would be scarier with a thermite grenade in it.
BTW
This page downloads you tube as a file on your drive.
http://keepvid.com/pop-up
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2017-08-07 00:09:10 UTC
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Post by Steve from Colorado
Post by Steve from Colorado
Post by Steve from Colorado
https://www.dedrone.com/en/newsroom/blog-detail/japan-
radioactive-drone-lands-on-roof-of-government-building
I can see it now.
Mini stinger missile batteries setup to automatically shoot down
drones that enter their air space.
Camera guided guns that fire BBs at the drone, along with their own
drones that engage enemy drones and shoot it down.
I read a report a year or two ago that one of the Scandinavian
countries is trying to teach eagles to capture drones. Police project
if I recall correctly.
I see a thriving market in used drones. Capture them by any number of
means, do any equivalent of filing off the serial number, and sell
them on the black market. New equivalent of the stolen gun used for
one crime and discarded.
Useful to burglars to watch properties to establish patterns.
Saw a youtube four or five years ago of a small drone carrying a 1911.
Fired several shots, absorbed the recoil, and returned to position for
the next shot. Not much more to it than a remotely controlled solenoid
to pull the trigger. Add a camera and AI to replace the remote
trigger. Great for contract killing and soon cheap enough for gang
warfare. Next years' model will be a flying AR15 with full auto.
Drop a cherry bomb down your teachers' fireplace chimney to harass
him.
The illicit uses are endless. (And a hell of a lot of fun ;>)
Here is a fun use.
http://youtu.be/V_LC_jmTmas
LOL! It would be scarier with a thermite grenade in it.
BTW
This page downloads you tube as a file on your drive.
http://keepvid.com/pop-up
;-)
http://youtu.be/flTPUAihnS0
Cold War Remarketing in Littleton, Colorado sells real Soviet tanks, all
BTAF approved. They use some scheme using acetylene and oxygen piped
into a front loading cannon so you could do some real damage. Of the
ten in your video, I'd take the scaled down German tank for the Rocky
Mountains.
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2017-08-05 15:55:00 UTC
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Post by betweentheeyes
Post by Steve from Colorado
Check out the fireworks. Total destruction of Ukrainian
munitions, including rockets. This is a game changer in warfare.
Why is it a 'game changer'?
Because someone can order a drone from Amazon for a few hundred bucks
and destroy millions of dollars of materiel? Obama has a fondness for
drone assassinations; was he stupid enough to think other people
couldn't figure out how to do it?
I am amazed that someone hasn't put a Drone up Obama or Hillary's ass.
Speaking of . . . .


https://www.rt.com/usa/398698-army-bans-dji-drones/

US Army bans Chinese drones over ‘operational risks & cyber
vulnerabilities’ — RT America
3-4 minutes

The Pentagon has ordered an Army-wide ban on all consumer drones made by
Chinese manufacturer DJI, citing “cyber vulnerabilities associated with
DJI products.”

The US Army has been ordered to “halt use of all DJI products,”
according to an August 2 memo from Lieutenant General Joseph Anderson,
the Army's Deputy Chief of Staff for Plans and Operations.

Additionally, the Army was ordered to “cease all use, uninstall all DJI
applications, remove all batteries/storage media from devices, and
secure equipment for follow on direction,” Anderson wrote in the memo.

The order applies to all DJI Unmanned Aircraft Systems (UAS) as well as
any products that use electrical components or software, including
“flight computers, cameras, radios, batteries, speed controllers, GPS
units, handheld control stations, or devices with DJI software
applications installed.”

The memo, which was obtained by Small UAS News, cites research from the
US Army Research Lab, who found the technology contained “threat and
user vulnerabilities,” and the US Navy, who found there were
“operational risks” with the family of products. No specific information
was provided on what those threats and risks were.

An Army spokesperson later confirmed the order with the Washington Times.

“We can confirm that guidance was issued; however, we are currently
reviewing the guidance and cannot comment further at this time,” the
spokesperson said.

In the past, the off-the-shelf DJI drones were the most widely used by
the Army and the most popular consumer drones in the world, according to
Drone Industry Insights.

The Army had issued over 300 Airworthiness Releases, authorizing the use
of DJI products on aerial missions, according to the memo.

Michael Perry, DJI’s Public Relations Manager, sent an email to Small
UAS News, saying that they had not been informed about the decision.

“We are surprised and disappointed to read reports of the US Army’s
unprompted restriction on DJI drones as we were not consulted during
their decision,” Perry said. “We’ll be reaching out to the US Army to
confirm the memo and to understand what is specifically meant by ‘cyber
vulnerabilities.’”

The Army is considering issuing a statement about the policy change,
Army spokesman Dov Schwartz told Reuters.

DJI is estimated to have secured around 70 percent of the global and
consumer market for drones, according to Reuters. Analysts at Goldman
Sachs estimate that the UAS market will be worth $100 billion by 2020.
They added that the largest market for drones is and will continue to be
the military.

Brett Velicovich, a former Army intelligence soldier who runs Expert
Drones, told Defense One that the memo “could have a huge impact on DJI.”

“There are US special operators in Syria using DJI products,” Velicovich
said. “So I get it. I’m glad [the Army is] finally doing something about
this.”
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rbowman
2017-08-05 16:56:20 UTC
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“We are surprised and disappointed to read reports of the US Army’s
unprompted restriction on DJI drones as we were not consulted during
their decision,” Perry said. “We’ll be reaching out to the US Army to
confirm the memo and to understand what is specifically meant by ‘cyber
vulnerabilities.’”
It means the Army doesn't know jack shit about 'cyber' so everything is
vulnerable. It also might mean the Army has another source of drones
that has political connections and only charges ten times as much.

https://desktopregulatorystate.wordpress.com/

I just started reading this. The Amazon Kindle edition is very rough but
it was only 99 cents and convenient. His approach is similar for many
technologies but he starts with drones and suggests there is a Moore's
Law for them. The technological genie is out of the bottle and there are
plenty of nerds as good, or better than, the traditional hierarchical
structures. You can't build an Abrams tank with a 3D printer but as the
focus shifts to more sophisticated arenas more people can play.
Steve from Colorado
2017-08-06 00:18:14 UTC
Permalink
Post by rbowman
Post by Steve from Colorado
“We are surprised and disappointed to read reports of the US Army’s
unprompted restriction on DJI drones as we were not consulted during
their decision,” Perry said. “We’ll be reaching out to the US Army to
confirm the memo and to understand what is specifically meant by ‘cyber
vulnerabilities.’”
It means the Army doesn't know jack shit about 'cyber' so everything is
vulnerable. It also might mean the Army has another source of drones
that has political connections and only charges ten times as much.
https://desktopregulatorystate.wordpress.com/
I just started reading this. The Amazon Kindle edition is very rough but
it was only 99 cents and convenient. His approach is similar for many
technologies but he starts with drones and suggests there is a Moore's
Law for them. The technological genie is out of the bottle and there are
plenty of nerds as good, or better than, the traditional hierarchical
structures. You can't build an Abrams tank with a 3D printer but as the
focus shifts to more sophisticated arenas more people can play.
A friend of mine sent me an MP4 video that he purports is of American
forces shooting up an IS / ISIS / ISIL convoy in Syria. It reminds me
of the Puff the Magic Dragon videos of the US Southern Command taking
out Noriega's forces in Panama during Operation Just Cause. Awesome
video, although I asked for cites and he didn't have them.

It's the first file download here:

http://globalgulag.us/globalgulag/id217.html
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Gunner Asch
2017-08-06 23:12:59 UTC
Permalink
Post by Steve from Colorado
Post by rbowman
“We are surprised and disappointed to read reports of the US Army’s
unprompted restriction on DJI drones as we were not consulted during
their decision,” Perry said. “We’ll be reaching out to the US Army to
confirm the memo and to understand what is specifically meant by ‘cyber
vulnerabilities.’”
It means the Army doesn't know jack shit about 'cyber' so everything is
vulnerable. It also might mean the Army has another source of drones
that has political connections and only charges ten times as much.
https://desktopregulatorystate.wordpress.com/
I just started reading this. The Amazon Kindle edition is very rough but
it was only 99 cents and convenient. His approach is similar for many
technologies but he starts with drones and suggests there is a Moore's
Law for them. The technological genie is out of the bottle and there are
plenty of nerds as good, or better than, the traditional hierarchical
structures. You can't build an Abrams tank with a 3D printer but as the
focus shifts to more sophisticated arenas more people can play.
A friend of mine sent me an MP4 video that he purports is of American
forces shooting up an IS / ISIS / ISIL convoy in Syria. It reminds me
of the Puff the Magic Dragon videos of the US Southern Command taking
out Noriega's forces in Panama during Operation Just Cause. Awesome
video, although I asked for cites and he didn't have them.
http://globalgulag.us/globalgulag/id217.html
Its video from a video game.

This one however..is real




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de chucka
2017-08-06 23:20:38 UTC
Permalink
Post by Steve from Colorado
Post by rbowman
Post by Steve from Colorado
“We are surprised and disappointed to read reports of the US Army’s
unprompted restriction on DJI drones as we were not consulted during
their decision,” Perry said. “We’ll be reaching out to the US Army to
confirm the memo and to understand what is specifically meant by ‘cyber
vulnerabilities.’”
It means the Army doesn't know jack shit about 'cyber' so everything is
vulnerable. It also might mean the Army has another source of drones
that has political connections and only charges ten times as much.
https://desktopregulatorystate.wordpress.com/
I just started reading this. The Amazon Kindle edition is very rough but
it was only 99 cents and convenient. His approach is similar for many
technologies but he starts with drones and suggests there is a Moore's
Law for them. The technological genie is out of the bottle and there are
plenty of nerds as good, or better than, the traditional hierarchical
structures. You can't build an Abrams tank with a 3D printer but as the
focus shifts to more sophisticated arenas more people can play.
A friend of mine sent me an MP4 video that he purports is of American
forces shooting up an IS / ISIS / ISIL convoy in Syria. It reminds me
of the Puff the Magic Dragon
Wasn't that the call sign of John Wayne's 'Spooky' in a movie?
Steve from Colorado
2017-08-06 23:30:35 UTC
Permalink
Post by de chucka
Post by Steve from Colorado
Post by rbowman
Post by Steve from Colorado
“We are surprised and disappointed to read reports of the US Army’s
unprompted restriction on DJI drones as we were not consulted during
their decision,” Perry said. “We’ll be reaching out to the US Army to
confirm the memo and to understand what is specifically meant by ‘cyber
vulnerabilities.’”
It means the Army doesn't know jack shit about 'cyber' so everything is
vulnerable. It also might mean the Army has another source of drones
that has political connections and only charges ten times as much.
https://desktopregulatorystate.wordpress.com/
I just started reading this. The Amazon Kindle edition is very rough but
it was only 99 cents and convenient. His approach is similar for many
technologies but he starts with drones and suggests there is a Moore's
Law for them. The technological genie is out of the bottle and there are
plenty of nerds as good, or better than, the traditional hierarchical
structures. You can't build an Abrams tank with a 3D printer but as the
focus shifts to more sophisticated arenas more people can play.
A friend of mine sent me an MP4 video that he purports is of American
forces shooting up an IS / ISIS / ISIL convoy in Syria. It reminds me
of the Puff the Magic Dragon
Wasn't that the call sign of John Wayne's 'Spooky' in a movie?
Don't know. Sorry.
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de chucka
2017-08-06 23:36:42 UTC
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Post by Steve from Colorado
Post by de chucka
Post by Steve from Colorado
Post by rbowman
Post by Steve from Colorado
“We are surprised and disappointed to read reports of the US Army’s
unprompted restriction on DJI drones as we were not consulted during
their decision,” Perry said. “We’ll be reaching out to the US Army to
confirm the memo and to understand what is specifically meant by ‘cyber
vulnerabilities.’”
It means the Army doesn't know jack shit about 'cyber' so
everything is
vulnerable. It also might mean the Army has another source of drones
that has political connections and only charges ten times as much.
https://desktopregulatorystate.wordpress.com/
I just started reading this. The Amazon Kindle edition is very rough but
it was only 99 cents and convenient. His approach is similar for many
technologies but he starts with drones and suggests there is a Moore's
Law for them. The technological genie is out of the bottle and there are
plenty of nerds as good, or better than, the traditional hierarchical
structures. You can't build an Abrams tank with a 3D printer but as the
focus shifts to more sophisticated arenas more people can play.
A friend of mine sent me an MP4 video that he purports is of American
forces shooting up an IS / ISIS / ISIL convoy in Syria. It reminds me
of the Puff the Magic Dragon
Wasn't that the call sign of John Wayne's 'Spooky' in a movie?
Don't know. Sorry.
Thanks for your reply and waste of bandwidth
Steve from Colorado
2017-08-06 23:56:52 UTC
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Post by de chucka
Post by Steve from Colorado
Post by de chucka
Post by Steve from Colorado
Post by rbowman
Post by Steve from Colorado
“We are surprised and disappointed to read reports of the US Army’s
unprompted restriction on DJI drones as we were not consulted during
their decision,” Perry said. “We’ll be reaching out to the US Army to
confirm the memo and to understand what is specifically meant by ‘cyber
vulnerabilities.’”
It means the Army doesn't know jack shit about 'cyber' so
everything is
vulnerable. It also might mean the Army has another source of drones
that has political connections and only charges ten times as much.
https://desktopregulatorystate.wordpress.com/
I just started reading this. The Amazon Kindle edition is very rough but
it was only 99 cents and convenient. His approach is similar for many
technologies but he starts with drones and suggests there is a Moore's
Law for them. The technological genie is out of the bottle and there are
plenty of nerds as good, or better than, the traditional hierarchical
structures. You can't build an Abrams tank with a 3D printer but as the
focus shifts to more sophisticated arenas more people can play.
A friend of mine sent me an MP4 video that he purports is of American
forces shooting up an IS / ISIS / ISIL convoy in Syria. It reminds me
of the Puff the Magic Dragon
Wasn't that the call sign of John Wayne's 'Spooky' in a movie?
Don't know. Sorry.
Thanks for your reply and waste of bandwidth
Wasn't a big fan of JW after he lost one lung to lung cancer and no
longer had the energy he had previously. I remember smoking some
Acapulco Gold in Fort Collins in 1968 and going with some roomates to
see Wayne in the Green Berets movie. One of the guys I was with
couldn't stop laughing at the movie and got us all thrown out of the
theater, filled with WASP Fort Collins George Wallace supporters. Did
this "Spooky movie" come later than Green Berets?
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de chucka
2017-08-07 00:08:48 UTC
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Post by Steve from Colorado
Post by de chucka
Post by Steve from Colorado
Post by de chucka
Post by Steve from Colorado
Post by rbowman
Post by Steve from Colorado
“We are surprised and disappointed to read reports of the US Army’s
unprompted restriction on DJI drones as we were not consulted during
their decision,” Perry said. “We’ll be reaching out to the US Army to
confirm the memo and to understand what is specifically meant by ‘cyber
vulnerabilities.’”
It means the Army doesn't know jack shit about 'cyber' so everything is
vulnerable. It also might mean the Army has another source of drones
that has political connections and only charges ten times as much.
https://desktopregulatorystate.wordpress.com/
I just started reading this. The Amazon Kindle edition is very rough but
it was only 99 cents and convenient. His approach is similar for many
technologies but he starts with drones and suggests there is a Moore's
Law for them. The technological genie is out of the bottle and there are
plenty of nerds as good, or better than, the traditional
hierarchical
structures. You can't build an Abrams tank with a 3D printer but as the
focus shifts to more sophisticated arenas more people can play.
A friend of mine sent me an MP4 video that he purports is of American
forces shooting up an IS / ISIS / ISIL convoy in Syria. It reminds me
of the Puff the Magic Dragon
Wasn't that the call sign of John Wayne's 'Spooky' in a movie?
Don't know. Sorry.
Thanks for your reply and waste of bandwidth
Wasn't a big fan of JW after he lost one lung to lung cancer and no
longer had the energy he had previously. I remember smoking some
Acapulco Gold in Fort Collins in 1968 and going with some roomates to
see Wayne in the Green Berets movie. One of the guys I was with
couldn't stop laughing at the movie and got us all thrown out of the
theater, filled with WASP Fort Collins George Wallace supporters. Did
this "Spooky movie" come later than Green Berets?
No I've been told from other sources that Puff the Magic Dragon was the
call sign of the Douglas AC-47 Spooky in Green Beret
Winston Smith
2017-08-06 23:54:30 UTC
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Post by de chucka
Post by Steve from Colorado
A friend of mine sent me an MP4 video that he purports is of American
forces shooting up an IS / ISIS / ISIL convoy in Syria. It reminds me
of the Puff the Magic Dragon
Wasn't that the call sign of John Wayne's 'Spooky' in a movie?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puff,_the_Magic_Dragon#Vietnam_War-era_gunship
Vietnam War-era gunship

During the Vietnam War the AC-47 Spooky gunship was nicknamed the
"Dragon" or "Dragon ship" by the Americans because of its armament and
firepower – the nickname soon caught on, and one website without
primary citations indicates that the American troops began to call the
AC-47 "Puff the Magic Dragon".
de chucka
2017-08-07 00:10:13 UTC
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Post by Winston Smith
Post by de chucka
Post by Steve from Colorado
A friend of mine sent me an MP4 video that he purports is of American
forces shooting up an IS / ISIS / ISIL convoy in Syria. It reminds me
of the Puff the Magic Dragon
Wasn't that the call sign of John Wayne's 'Spooky' in a movie?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puff,_the_Magic_Dragon#Vietnam_War-era_gunship
Vietnam War-era gunship
During the Vietnam War the AC-47 Spooky gunship was nicknamed the
"Dragon" or "Dragon ship" by the Americans because of its armament and
firepower – the nickname soon caught on, and one website without
primary citations indicates that the American troops began to call the
AC-47 "Puff the Magic Dragon".
also the call sign of the Douglas AC-47 in The Green Beret
rbowman
2017-08-07 02:55:59 UTC
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Post by Winston Smith
During the Vietnam War the AC-47 Spooky gunship was nicknamed the
"Dragon" or "Dragon ship" by the Americans because of its armament and
firepower – the nickname soon caught on, and one website without
primary citations indicates that the American troops began to call the
AC-47 "Puff the Magic Dragon".
Horrible song, 'Puff the Magic Dragon', all about drugs... I sometimes
wonder if older people today are a clueless as adults in the '60s. My
only concern is the kids aren't raising enough hell; they are a lot more
screwed than my generation ever was.
de chucka
2017-08-07 03:15:12 UTC
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Post by rbowman
Post by Winston Smith
During the Vietnam War the AC-47 Spooky gunship was nicknamed the
"Dragon" or "Dragon ship" by the Americans because of its armament and
firepower – the nickname soon caught on, and one website without
primary citations indicates that the American troops began to call the
AC-47 "Puff the Magic Dragon".
Horrible song, 'Puff the Magic Dragon', all about drugs... I sometimes
wonder if older people today are a clueless as adults in the '60s. My
only concern is the kids aren't raising enough hell; they are a lot more
screwed than my generation ever was.
and if you play it backwards it praises Satan and has anti-NRA slogan
Scout
2017-08-07 04:01:06 UTC
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Post by rbowman
Post by Winston Smith
During the Vietnam War the AC-47 Spooky gunship was nicknamed the
"Dragon" or "Dragon ship" by the Americans because of its armament and
firepower – the nickname soon caught on, and one website without
primary citations indicates that the American troops began to call the
AC-47 "Puff the Magic Dragon".
Horrible song, 'Puff the Magic Dragon', all about drugs... I sometimes
wonder if older people today are a clueless as adults in the '60s. My only
concern is the kids aren't raising enough hell; they are a lot more
screwed than my generation ever was.
I believe you're thinking of the kids TV show, Huffin Puff, not "Puff the
Magic Dragon" from the children's song.
While it's a common myth that the song has ties to drugs, it's just that, a
myth.
rbowman
2017-08-07 06:00:24 UTC
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Post by Scout
Post by rbowman
Post by Winston Smith
During the Vietnam War the AC-47 Spooky gunship was nicknamed the
"Dragon" or "Dragon ship" by the Americans because of its armament and
firepower – the nickname soon caught on, and one website without
primary citations indicates that the American troops began to call the
AC-47 "Puff the Magic Dragon".
Horrible song, 'Puff the Magic Dragon', all about drugs... I
sometimes wonder if older people today are a clueless as adults in the
'60s. My only concern is the kids aren't raising enough hell; they are
a lot more screwed than my generation ever was.
I believe you're thinking of the kids TV show, Huffin Puff, not "Puff
the Magic Dragon" from the children's song.
While it's a common myth that the song has ties to drugs, it's just
that, a myth.
No, I'm thinking about 'Puff the Magic Dragon' by Peter, Paul and Mary
that was banned from airplay by some stations because clueless idiots
thought it was about drugs. We got a few laughs from that. We also got a
laugh when the Doors pwned Ed Sullivan and when Lawrence Welk mistook
'One Toke Over the Line' for an old spiritual.

They probably even missed the lyrics for Airplane's 'We Can Be Together'.

We are forces of chaos and anarchy
Everything they say we are we are
And we are very proud of ourselves

Up against the wall, motherfucker.

"Something is happening and you don't know what it is, do you, Mr. Jones?"

Fast forward fifty years and our so-called leaders are still just as
clueless.
Ed Huntress
2017-08-07 06:10:42 UTC
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Post by rbowman
Post by Scout
Post by rbowman
Post by Winston Smith
During the Vietnam War the AC-47 Spooky gunship was nicknamed the
"Dragon" or "Dragon ship" by the Americans because of its armament and
firepower – the nickname soon caught on, and one website without
primary citations indicates that the American troops began to call the
AC-47 "Puff the Magic Dragon".
Horrible song, 'Puff the Magic Dragon', all about drugs... I
sometimes wonder if older people today are a clueless as adults in the
'60s. My only concern is the kids aren't raising enough hell; they are
a lot more screwed than my generation ever was.
I believe you're thinking of the kids TV show, Huffin Puff, not "Puff
the Magic Dragon" from the children's song.
While it's a common myth that the song has ties to drugs, it's just
that, a myth.
No, I'm thinking about 'Puff the Magic Dragon' by Peter, Paul and Mary
that was banned from airplay by some stations because clueless idiots
thought it was about drugs. We got a few laughs from that. We also got a
laugh when the Doors pwned Ed Sullivan and when Lawrence Welk mistook
'One Toke Over the Line' for an old spiritual.
They probably even missed the lyrics for Airplane's 'We Can Be Together'.
We are forces of chaos and anarchy
Everything they say we are we are
And we are very proud of ourselves
Up against the wall, motherfucker.
Oh god...don't tell me you hung out at the Fillmore East on Wednesday
nights, eh?
Post by rbowman
"Something is happening and you don't know what it is, do you, Mr. Jones?"
Fast forward fifty years and our so-called leaders are still just as
clueless.
rbowman
2017-08-07 16:28:51 UTC
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Post by Ed Huntress
Post by rbowman
Post by Scout
Post by rbowman
Post by Winston Smith
During the Vietnam War the AC-47 Spooky gunship was nicknamed the
"Dragon" or "Dragon ship" by the Americans because of its armament and
firepower – the nickname soon caught on, and one website without
primary citations indicates that the American troops began to call the
AC-47 "Puff the Magic Dragon".
Horrible song, 'Puff the Magic Dragon', all about drugs... I
sometimes wonder if older people today are a clueless as adults in the
'60s. My only concern is the kids aren't raising enough hell; they are
a lot more screwed than my generation ever was.
I believe you're thinking of the kids TV show, Huffin Puff, not "Puff
the Magic Dragon" from the children's song.
While it's a common myth that the song has ties to drugs, it's just
that, a myth.
No, I'm thinking about 'Puff the Magic Dragon' by Peter, Paul and Mary
that was banned from airplay by some stations because clueless idiots
thought it was about drugs. We got a few laughs from that. We also got a
laugh when the Doors pwned Ed Sullivan and when Lawrence Welk mistook
'One Toke Over the Line' for an old spiritual.
They probably even missed the lyrics for Airplane's 'We Can Be Together'.
We are forces of chaos and anarchy
Everything they say we are we are
And we are very proud of ourselves
Up against the wall, motherfucker.
Oh god...don't tell me you hung out at the Fillmore East on Wednesday
nights, eh?
Nope, but I did see Jefferson Airplane at the Palace Theater in Albany:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palace_Theatre_(Albany,_New_York)

Gracie came on stage and asked in an innocent manner "Is it legal to say
'fuck' in Albany?' There were cops on stage to head off any riot by the
drug crazed hippies. Slick handed one her tambourine and he took it with
a quizzical look on his face. Shortly after he was shaking it against
his leg on the beat. There were no disturbances.

Living in upstate NY was a long way from Sodom on the Hudson. The west
coast scene was completely incomprehensible. I finally made it to Haight
Ashbury about twenty years too late. Oh well. I even missed Woodstock
despite the proximity. The Wednesday prior to the concert I was on my
way to a crappy little island in South Carolina.
Ed Huntress
2017-08-07 16:50:05 UTC
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Post by Ed Huntress
Post by rbowman
Post by Scout
Post by rbowman
Post by Winston Smith
During the Vietnam War the AC-47 Spooky gunship was nicknamed the
"Dragon" or "Dragon ship" by the Americans because of its armament and
firepower – the nickname soon caught on, and one website without
primary citations indicates that the American troops began to call the
AC-47 "Puff the Magic Dragon".
Horrible song, 'Puff the Magic Dragon', all about drugs... I
sometimes wonder if older people today are a clueless as adults in the
'60s. My only concern is the kids aren't raising enough hell; they are
a lot more screwed than my generation ever was.
I believe you're thinking of the kids TV show, Huffin Puff, not "Puff
the Magic Dragon" from the children's song.
While it's a common myth that the song has ties to drugs, it's just
that, a myth.
No, I'm thinking about 'Puff the Magic Dragon' by Peter, Paul and Mary
that was banned from airplay by some stations because clueless idiots
thought it was about drugs. We got a few laughs from that. We also got a
laugh when the Doors pwned Ed Sullivan and when Lawrence Welk mistook
'One Toke Over the Line' for an old spiritual.
They probably even missed the lyrics for Airplane's 'We Can Be Together'.
We are forces of chaos and anarchy
Everything they say we are we are
And we are very proud of ourselves
Up against the wall, motherfucker.
Oh god...don't tell me you hung out at the Fillmore East on Wednesday
nights, eh?
Wednesday nights were the nights that Up Against The Wall
Motherfuckers (commonly known as "The Motherfuckers") performed at the
Fillmore East. They were a Dada/anarchist group; you usually could
count on some violence, sometimes with MC5. The Motherfuckers were
yelling "Up against the wall, motherfuckers," while the MC5 was
yelling "Kick out the jams, motherfuckers" and mothers were horrified
everywhere. d8-)
Post by rbowman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palace_Theatre_(Albany,_New_York)
Gracie came on stage and asked in an innocent manner "Is it legal to say
'fuck' in Albany?' There were cops on stage to head off any riot by the
drug crazed hippies. Slick handed one her tambourine and he took it with
a quizzical look on his face. Shortly after he was shaking it against
his leg on the beat. There were no disturbances.
Living in upstate NY was a long way from Sodom on the Hudson. The west
coast scene was completely incomprehensible. I finally made it to Haight
Ashbury about twenty years too late. Oh well. I even missed Woodstock
despite the proximity. The Wednesday prior to the concert I was on my
way to a crappy little island in South Carolina.
Don't get me started. Until January, my son lived in the East Village,
around three blocks from what was once the Fillmore East. When I spent
time there, in the late '60s, people were lying in the gutter and
hypodermic syringes were everywhere. You had to travel in groups.

By the time my son moved in, rents were $3,000 - $4,000 for a tiny
one-bedroom apartment and women were walking their poodles alone at
night while wearing Givenchy and Prada.

It's completely gentrified, like much of lower Manhattan now. I hardly
recognize Alphabet City or Soho.

BTW, I missed Woodstock, too. There was a big three-day concert, now
forgotten, a couple of weeks earlier at Atlantic City. I attended that
-- most of the same performers as at Woodstock.

My girlfriend returned from a summer in Italy with two Woodstock
tickets and wanted to go. I said, "Are you kidding? My uncle trains
horses in Woodstock. It's just a bunch of old horse farms. Nothing is
going to happen up there."

I don't gamble, either. <g>
--
Ed Huntress
Steve from Colorado
2017-08-07 21:11:42 UTC
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Post by rbowman
Post by Scout
Post by rbowman
Post by Winston Smith
During the Vietnam War the AC-47 Spooky gunship was nicknamed the
"Dragon" or "Dragon ship" by the Americans because of its armament and
firepower – the nickname soon caught on, and one website without
primary citations indicates that the American troops began to call the
AC-47 "Puff the Magic Dragon".
Horrible song, 'Puff the Magic Dragon', all about drugs... I
sometimes wonder if older people today are a clueless as adults in the
'60s. My only concern is the kids aren't raising enough hell; they are
a lot more screwed than my generation ever was.
I believe you're thinking of the kids TV show, Huffin Puff, not "Puff
the Magic Dragon" from the children's song.
While it's a common myth that the song has ties to drugs, it's just
that, a myth.
No, I'm thinking about 'Puff the Magic Dragon' by Peter, Paul and Mary
that was banned from airplay by some stations because clueless idiots
thought it was about drugs. We got a few laughs from that. We also got a
laugh when the Doors pwned Ed Sullivan and when Lawrence Welk mistook
'One Toke Over the Line' for an old spiritual.
They probably even missed the lyrics for Airplane's 'We Can Be Together'.
We are forces of chaos and anarchy
Everything they say we are we are
And we are very proud of ourselves
Up against the wall, motherfucker.
Oh god...don't tell me you hung out at the Fillmore East on Wednesday
nights, eh?
Wednesday nights were the nights that Up Against The Wall
Motherfuckers (commonly known as "The Motherfuckers") performed at the
Fillmore East. They were a Dada/anarchist group; you usually could
count on some violence, sometimes with MC5. The Motherfuckers were
yelling "Up against the wall, motherfuckers," while the MC5 was
yelling "Kick out the jams, motherfuckers" and mothers were horrified
everywhere. d8-)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palace_Theatre_(Albany,_New_York)
Gracie came on stage and asked in an innocent manner "Is it legal to say
'fuck' in Albany?' There were cops on stage to head off any riot by the
drug crazed hippies. Slick handed one her tambourine and he took it with
a quizzical look on his face. Shortly after he was shaking it against
his leg on the beat. There were no disturbances.
Living in upstate NY was a long way from Sodom on the Hudson. The west
coast scene was completely incomprehensible. I finally made it to Haight
Ashbury about twenty years too late. Oh well. I even missed Woodstock
despite the proximity. The Wednesday prior to the concert I was on my
way to a crappy little island in South Carolina.
Don't get me started. Until January, my son lived in the East Village,
around three blocks from what was once the Fillmore East. When I spent
time there, in the late '60s, people were lying in the gutter and
hypodermic syringes were everywhere. You had to travel in groups.
By the time my son moved in, rents were $3,000 - $4,000 for a tiny
one-bedroom apartment and women were walking their poodles alone at
night while wearing Givenchy and Prada.
It's completely gentrified, like much of lower Manhattan now. I hardly
recognize Alphabet City or Soho.
BTW, I missed Woodstock, too. There was a big three-day concert, now
forgotten, a couple of weeks earlier at Atlantic City. I attended that
-- most of the same performers as at Woodstock.
My girlfriend returned from a summer in Italy with two Woodstock
tickets and wanted to go. I said, "Are you kidding? My uncle trains
horses in Woodstock. It's just a bunch of old horse farms. Nothing is
going to happen up there."
Someone, I don't remember who, was quoted as saying, "If you remember
being at Woodstock, you weren't there."
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Seaview
2017-08-07 21:18:06 UTC
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Post by Ed Huntress
BTW, I missed Woodstock, too. There was a big three-day concert, now
forgotten, a couple of weeks earlier at Atlantic City. I attended that
-- most of the same performers as at Woodstock.
My girlfriend returned from a summer in Italy with two Woodstock
tickets and wanted to go. I said, "Are you kidding? My uncle trains
horses in Woodstock. It's just a bunch of old horse farms. Nothing is
going to happen up there."
Someone, I don't remember who, was quoted as saying, "If you remember
being at Woodstock, you weren't there."
Meanwhile back in excuse-ville:

http://www.11points.com/Music/11_Bands_That_Skipped_Woodstock_For_Incredibly_Lame_Reasons

Bob Dylan - fear of a gathering storm of hippies

Jethro Tull - fear of naked ladies - Seriously.

Led Zeppelin - concert in New Jersey instead

Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention - too much mud - Zappa turned
down the gig last minute because he heard rain was coming and didn't
want to play around all that mud.

Joni Mitchell - didn't want to miss the "Dick Cavett Show" the following
Tuesday

I-ron Butterfly - demanded helicopters for transportation

The Doors - fear of getting shot by someone in the crowd

The Beatles - Yoko wasn't invited too

Rolling Stones - Mick Jagger was shooting a bad movie in Australia

Eric Clapton - in England with Steve Winwood working really hard on
getting their new band off the ground

Roy Rogers - accurately realized it wasn't really his scene - The
organizers wanted him to come on at the end of the show and sing "Happy
Trails To You".
rbowman
2017-08-08 02:08:56 UTC
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Someone, I don't remember who, was quoted as saying, "If you remember
being at Woodstock, you weren't there."
That's my excuse for the '70s in general. Altamont put paid to the '60s
and it was all downhill from there.
Winston Smith
2017-08-08 03:22:18 UTC
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Someone, I don't remember who, was quoted as saying, "If you remember
being at Woodstock, you weren't there."
Robin Williams, Mork from Ork, I do believe.

rbowman
2017-08-08 02:06:26 UTC
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By the time my son moved in, rents were $3,000 - $4,000 for a tiny
one-bedroom apartment and women were walking their poodles alone at
night while wearing Givenchy and Prada.
My ex and her mother each bought a condo in the area I knew as Hell's
Kitchen where the Westies roamed. I didn't ask what they cost.
Post by Ed Huntress
It's completely gentrified, like much of lower Manhattan now. I hardly
recognize Alphabet City or Soho.
I haven't been in NYC since the late '80s. The Deuce was all clean,
sparkly, and no fun at all. I never had a problem there although one
night as I was watching the circus a couple of black guys crossed the
street to ask me if I was the new narc on the block. "Just a tourist,
nothing to see here." My default setting is Condition Yellow and I
stood out among the sleepwalkers.
Steve from Colorado
2017-08-06 23:33:06 UTC
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“We are surprised and disappointed to read reports of the US Army’s
unprompted restriction on DJI drones as we were not consulted during
their decision,” Perry said. “We’ll be reaching out to the US Army to
confirm the memo and to understand what is specifically meant by ‘cyber
vulnerabilities.’”
It means the Army doesn't know jack shit about 'cyber' so everything is
vulnerable. It also might mean the Army has another source of drones
that has political connections and only charges ten times as much.
https://desktopregulatorystate.wordpress.com/
I just started reading this. The Amazon Kindle edition is very rough but
it was only 99 cents and convenient. His approach is similar for many
technologies but he starts with drones and suggests there is a Moore's
Law for them. The technological genie is out of the bottle and there are
plenty of nerds as good, or better than, the traditional hierarchical
structures. You can't build an Abrams tank with a 3D printer but as the
focus shifts to more sophisticated arenas more people can play.
A friend of mine sent me an MP4 video that he purports is of American
forces shooting up an IS / ISIS / ISIL convoy in Syria. It reminds me
of the Puff the Magic Dragon videos of the US Southern Command taking
out Noriega's forces in Panama during Operation Just Cause. Awesome
video, although I asked for cites and he didn't have them.
http://globalgulag.us/globalgulag/id217.html
Its video from a video game.
This one however..is real
http://youtu.be/yc_T75APRz8
Man, the video game is better eye candy. I saw that ROC soldiers are
training without live ammo, supposedly to keep the noise down and reduce
the chance of friendly fire. Still, it would make real combat seem like
a flashback from a video game. I suppose robot soldiers are the next
big thing.
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