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Climate Change Deniers Are Generally Uneducated, Brainwashed Stooges Who Live Below The Poverty Line But Defend The Old Money Wealthy Elite
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AlleyCat
2021-01-28 00:35:19 UTC
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Are the climate change deniers with no evidence just naturally gullible?

I've often been struck by the way in which people who subscribe to one set
of baseless beliefs are susceptible to others, in fields that are not
obviously related. The internet is awash with sites that explain how the
US government destroyed the twin towers – and how alien landings have been
covered up by the authorities. Many of those who insist that Barack Obama
is a Muslim also believe that sex education raises the incidence of
unwanted pregnancies.

A rich collection of unfounded beliefs is a common characteristic of those
who deny – despite the overwhelming scientific evidence – that man-made
global warming is taking place. I've listed a few examples before, but
I'll jog your memories.

Lord Monckton, whose lecture asserting that man-made climate change is
nonsense has been watched by 4 million people, also maintains that he has
invented a cure for Aids, multiple sclerosis, influenza and other
incurable diseases.

Nils-Axel Mörner, whose claims that sea levels are falling are widely
cited in the Telegraph and elsewhere, also insists that he possesses
paranormal abilities to find water and metal using a dowsing rod, and that
he has discovered "the Hong Kong of the [ancient] Greeks" in Sweden.

Peter Taylor, the Daily Express's favourite climate change denier, has
claimed that a Masonic conspiracy has sent a "kook, a ninja freak, some
throwback from past lives" to kill him, and insisted that plutonium may
"possess healing powers, borne of Plutonic dimension, a preparation for
rebirth, an awakener to higher consciousness".

Now our old friend Christopher Booker reminds us of his membership of this
select club, with a remarkable article for the Spectator:

"I spent a fascinating few days in a villa opposite Cap Ferrat, taking
part in a seminar with a dozen very bright scientists, some world
authorities in their field. Although most had never met before, they had
two things in common. Each had come to question one of the most
universally accepted scientific orthodoxies of our age: the Darwinian
belief that life on earth evolved simply through the changes brought about
by an infinite series of minute variations. The other was that, on
arriving at these conclusions, they had come up against a wall of
hostility from the scientific establishment."

He goes on to list the tiredest old creationist canards, each of which has
been answered a thousand times by evolutionary biologists. How can
distinct species exist if evolution proceeds by gradualism? Where are the
intermediate forms? How could natural selection "account for all those
complex organs, such as the eye, which require so many interdependent
changes to take place simultaneously?" How could it account for changes
across "an improbably short time, such as those needed to transform land
mammals into whales in barely 2 million years?" DNA and cellular
reproduction are "so organisationally complex" that "they could not
conceivably have evolved just through minute, random variations".

He appears to be unaware that these objections have been repeatedly
debunked. He also appears to be unaware of any developments in the science
of evolution since the Origin of Species was published. He maintains that
these objections expose evolutionary scientists as "simply 'believers'
taking a leap of faith", who treat any dissent as a "thought crime". He
compares them to the Inquisition and to Trofim Lysenko: the Soviet
agronomist whose hypotheses were imposed by Stalin as the official
scientific orthodoxy.

His view of evolutionary science, in other words, is in line with his view
of climate science. Indeed, he makes the link explicit:

"We have seen a remarkably similar response from the scientific
establishment to anyone dissenting from that other dominating theory of
our time, that rising CO2 levels caused by human activity are leading to
runaway global warming."

What he's saying is that it is no longer acceptable to tell people they
are wrong. If you knock down the claims of people who can marshal no sound
science to support them, you place yourself in the same category as the
Inquisition or Stalin's thought police.

Sadly he doesn't tell us who the "world authorities" who have destroyed
the theory of natural selection are. In fact he cites no scientist, no
paper, no publication of any kind, except Darwin and the Origin of
Species. We must simply take his word for it that the entire canon of
evolutionary biology, just like the entire canon of climate science, is
not just wrong but a fiendish conspiracy against the public, that those
who reject it are true scientific heroes, and those who defend it are
witch-finders and despots.

Needless to say, some of Booker's fans have swallowed all this and
reproduced his article on their own sites. Piers Corbyn, also a well-known
man-made climate change sceptic, added this comment to the Spectator
thread:

"Superb stuff Christopher. We seem to be having to fight attempts to
impose a new age of religiosity where belief in the 'Official' view reigns
supreme."

So here's a poser. Are people who entertain a range of strong beliefs for
which there is no evidence naturally gullible? Or does the rejection of
one scientific discipline make you more inclined to reject others?

To dismiss an entire canon of science on the basis of either no evidence
or evidence that has already been debunked is to evince an astonishing
level of self-belief. It suggests that, by instinct or by birth, you know
more about this subject (even if you show no sign of ever having studied
it) than the thousands of intelligent people who have spent their lives
working on it. Once you have taken that leap of self-belief, once you have
arrogated to yourself the authority otherwise vested in science, any faith
is then possible. Your own views (and those of the small coterie who share
them) become your sole reference points, and are therefore unchallengeable
and immutable. You must believe yourself capable of anything. And, in a
sense, you probably are.
Wilson Woods
2023-05-30 08:49:28 UTC
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Marijuana smokers are the largest group of incestuous vermin.
That "daughter" needed a shave.

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A man killed and dismembered a convicted serial sex offender in
revenge before strangling his daughter when she disturbed him,
police believe.

Nathaniel Henry, 37, sought retribution on a man who committed
33 offences including rape, sexual assault, burglary and theft.

There were 12 convictions, and seven of the offences were sexual
in nature.

Henry, the police's chief suspect, is thought to have killed
himself a day after the bodies were found on November 4, 2017,
and was discovered by officers on New Year's Eve that year.

The body of Noel Brown, 69, who was missing both arms from the
elbow down and his right leg, was discovered in his bath in his
Deptford, south London flat in November 2017.

Police believe Henry knew one of Noel Brown's victims and this
was the motivation for the murders.

The man's daughter, 41-year-old single mum of two Marie Brown,
was strangled to death when she is believed to have walked in on
her murderer dismembering her dad.

Both of then Henry's victims were throttled with surgical socks,
tubigrips and nearly two years after the double murder, the
missing body parts have never been found.

Ms Brown visited her dad after he had failed to answer his phone
for a few days in December 2017. After she failed to return, her
teenage daughter Venita contacted police who made the grisly
discovery.

The Metropolitan Police went through a lengthy process of
checking over 500 people's DNA before they finally came upon
Henry.

DCI Simon Harding said: "We checked every CCTV camera in the
estate. It was bad luck when the only camera that pointed at the
flat was the only one on the entire estate that wasn't working.

"The nearest street in Deptford attracts thousands of people on
a weekly basis as there are market stalls. This made tracking
CCTV very difficult."

Two spots of DNA were discovered on two tubigrips, one found
underneath Mr Brown's bed, and another in the living room where
Ms Brown was murdered.

The case matched DNA found at an aggravated burglary in 2011 in
Hounslow.

Using sophisticated tracking techniques of matching familiar DNA
at both scenes, police were able to pinpoint the closest match
of DNA to Nathaniel Henry's father.

DCI Helen Rance, who led the investigation, said: "He did not
understand why he needed our DNA and was at first very resistant
to that idea.

"We checked on him again and he eventually asked, 'does this
have something to do with my son?' We asked him what that meant,
and he said that his son had died.

"That was when we knew that we looking at a possible murder-
suicide."

Henry was a basketball coach and volunteered to work with under-
privileged children.

DCI Harding said: "He had a history of mental illness, but
nothing could have prepared us for this.

"We still don't know the trigger for why he committed this
homicide now."

Henry swallowed an overdose of cold medication and was found in
a cupboard, and both the coroner and police say they do not know
whether it was suicide or not.

DCI Rance said: "Our hypothesis is after we put out to the media
that Marie was a mother of two young girls, his mental health
may have declined even further."

Henry's computer was not seized until months after his death,
and it was wiped clean. His iPhone was also seized but was
locked and remains a mystery to the police.

DCI Rance: "The investigation was incredibly successful in
identifying a killer. Any murder investigation that is
ultimately solved has to be considered a success.

"It would be fair to say there was a tinge of disappointment
when we identified the killer that he was dead. We would have
liked to have questioned that person why he did it. We won't be
able to have it in this case.

"I am 100% certain we have the killer. His DNA is in Noel's flat
and Noel's DNA is on his jacket. We have CCTV of him leaving and
arriving on the scene on a bike. There's no doubt in my mind."

Police said the briefing held at New Scotland Yard on Friday was
to present the evidence they would have had at court.

DCI Rance said: "Nathaniel Henry was not convicted of any crime
and we have to reiterate this.

"He would have been our chief suspect and the man we would have
charged with the crimes of these two killings and put him
forward for the CPS to prosecute.

"It is disappointing for the victim's families who won't be able
to have closure in this way."

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/murderer-
dismembered-sex-offender-killed-20891491

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