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Where are all the MILLIONS of jobs that the BILLION DOLLAR Bush tax cuts were supposed to give us?
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Too_Many_Tools
2012-10-28 20:07:08 UTC
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With all the promises that the Tea Party and Republican Party offer
us, one that they don't talk about is where are all the MILLIONS of
jobs that the BILLION DOLLAR Bush tax cuts were supposed to give us?

It would seem that America would be better off with those BILLIONS of
DOLLARS of tax revenue than the empty promises that the Republican
Party never delivers on.

Let those needy millionaires/billionairies of the 47% actually work
for a living.....

TMT
Klaus Schadenfreude
2012-10-28 21:02:47 UTC
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Post by Too_Many_Tools
With all the promises that the Tea Party and Republican Party offer
us,
They haven't been elected yet.

Where are all the jobs Obama promised? The stupid fucker can't even
defend out own soil.

What's wrong with him?
Too_Many_Tools
2012-10-28 23:17:18 UTC
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Post by Too_Many_Tools
With all the promises that the Tea Party and Republican Party offer
us, one that they don't talk about is where are all the MILLIONS of
jobs that the BILLION DOLLAR Bush tax cuts were supposed to give us?
It would seem that America would be better off with those BILLIONS of
DOLLARS of tax revenue than the empty promises that the Republican
Party never delivers on.
Let those needy millionaires/billionairies of the 47% actually work
for a living.....
TMT
LOL...the resident conservative felon weighs in...

The best that Republicans can do.

Laugh..laugh..laugh..

TMT
F. George McDuffee
2012-10-28 23:43:26 UTC
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On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 16:17:18 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools
<***@yahoo.com> wrote:
SNIP>
Post by Too_Many_Tools
where are all the MILLIONS of
Post by Too_Many_Tools
jobs that the BILLION DOLLAR Bush tax cuts were supposed to give us?
<SNIP>

China
--
Unka' George

"Gold is the money of kings,
silver is the money of gentlemen,
barter is the money of peasants,
but debt is the money of slaves"

-Norm Franz, "Money and Wealth in the New Millenium"
Oglethorpe
2012-10-30 00:48:14 UTC
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Post by F. George McDuffee
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 16:17:18 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools
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Post by Too_Many_Tools
where are all the MILLIONS of
Post by Too_Many_Tools
jobs that the BILLION DOLLAR Bush tax cuts were supposed to give us?
<SNIP>
China
Sent there by Obama.
F. George McDuffee
2012-10-30 00:15:46 UTC
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On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 17:48:14 -0700, "Oglethorpe"
Post by Oglethorpe
Post by F. George McDuffee
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 16:17:18 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools
SNIP>
Post by Too_Many_Tools
where are all the MILLIONS of
Post by Too_Many_Tools
jobs that the BILLION DOLLAR Bush tax cuts were supposed to give us?
<SNIP>
China
Sent there by Obama.
===============

While there may be some satisfaction in saying this, the
facts are this is the end result of a 30+ year
policy/process of domestic de-industrialization.

Until and unless the U.S. re industrializes and implements
overtly statist policies such as import substitution and
high export tariffs on commodities and semi-processed goods
(to protect domestic high value added/high wage operations)
this will not change, although the country(ies) where our
manufacturing sector is/are located may change, e.g. from
China to Vietnam or Africa.

One example is the frantic and obsessive efforts of our
supranational oil/gas companies to export domestic U.S.
shale oil/gas as raw, low value (undervalued?) commodities,
or with minimal processing, e.g. ethane gas, which is the
precursor for many plastics, rather than taking care of our
domestic needs first, and exporting high value added
domestically processed finished products such as plastics,
petrochemicals, polyester base, or even end use items such
as textiles and apparel. FWIW - domestic utilization of
such resources eliminates many opportunities for
organizational and managerial profit skimming and tax
evasion, for example through "transfer pricing."
FWIW -- the technology/methodology for shale oil/gas
exploitation was developed by the U.S. government, i.e. paid
for by the U.S. taxpayer.
http://thebreakthrough.org/archive/shale_gas_fracking_history_and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shale_gas
<snip>
Work on industrial-scale shale gas production did not begin
until the 1970s, when declining production potential from
conventional gas deposits in the United States spurred the
federal government to invest in R&D and demonstration
projects that ultimately led to directional and horizontal
drilling, microseismic imaging, and massive hydraulic
fracturing.
<snip>

Another current example is a just announced breakthrough in
the use of carbon nanotubes in the production of micro
circuits by IBM. Where will the production plants be
located? Will IBM receive U.S. tax breaks for a foreign
plant, e.g. accelerated depreciation and deduction of
construction costs as a business expense on their U.S. tax
returns? Another question is who paid for the research and
who owns (or should own) the intellectual property? Is this
yet another corporate rip-off of the tax payer by
privatizing government (DARPA?) sponsored research results?
http://www.nanowerk.com/news2/newsid=27115.php
http://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/blog/2012/10/how-nanotechnology-could-speed-up-ibm.html


One operational definition of a colony is an area that
exports commodities at low prices, and re-imports these at
much higher prices after processing. History shows us where
ever this "economic model" has been, or is being
implemented, it is a disaster for the vast majority of
people in the "colony", although it makes the colonial elite
wealthy (and powerful) beyond the dreams of avarice, and in
most cases, concurrently drives the "colony" deep into
sovereign debt because of a highly adverse balance of trade.
--
Unka' George

"Gold is the money of kings,
silver is the money of gentlemen,
barter is the money of peasants,
but debt is the money of slaves"

-Norm Franz, "Money and Wealth in the New Millenium"
Klaus Schadenfreude
2012-10-29 00:06:25 UTC
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Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
With all the promises that the Tea Party and Republican Party offer
us, one that they don't talk about is where are all the MILLIONS of
jobs that the BILLION DOLLAR Bush tax cuts were supposed to give us?
It would seem that America would be better off with those BILLIONS of
DOLLARS of tax revenue than the empty promises that the Republican
Party never delivers on.
Let those needy millionaires/billionairies of the 47% actually work
for a living.....
TMT
LOL...the resident conservative felon weighs in...
You're replying to yourself again. Shall we assume you're referring to
yourself as well?

What's your felony for, anyway?

I'm guessing it has something to do with a neighborhood park.

And a bag of candy.
Gray Guest
2012-10-29 00:43:42 UTC
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Too_Many_Tools <***@yahoo.com> wrote in news:540de24e-d9d3-483e-
99ad-***@s14g2000vba.googlegroups.com:

I think the question is where is the economic recovery the trillion dollar
Obaama stimulus promised us.

And if you are prepared to wrte a chcek for your portion of the 6 trillion
debt increase.
--
Refusenik #1

Libs suffer from Eleutherophobia. And there is no cure.
Too_Many_Tools
2012-10-29 00:50:05 UTC
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Post by Gray Guest
I think the question is where is the economic recovery the trillion dollar
Obaama stimulus promised us.
And if you are prepared to wrte a chcek for your portion of the 6 trillion
debt increase.
--
Refusenik #1
Libs suffer from Eleutherophobia. And there is no cure.
LOL...has your check for Bush's 1.2 TRILLION deficit cleared yet?

America's economic recovery has been happening...too bad you sat on
your ass and let it pass you by.

TMT
Neolibertarian
2012-10-29 02:50:22 UTC
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Post by Too_Many_Tools
With all the promises that the Tea Party and Republican Party offer
us, one that they don't talk about is where are all the MILLIONS of
jobs that the BILLION DOLLAR Bush tax cuts were supposed to give us?
It would seem that America would be better off with those BILLIONS of
DOLLARS of tax revenue than the empty promises that the Republican
Party never delivers on.
"America would be better off with" which "billions?"
--
Neolibertarian

"Global Warming: It ain't the heat, it's the stupidity."
Too_Many_Tools
2012-10-29 03:59:17 UTC
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Post by Neolibertarian
In article
Post by Too_Many_Tools
With all the promises that the Tea Party and Republican Party offer
us, one that they don't talk about is where are all the MILLIONS of
jobs that the BILLION DOLLAR Bush tax cuts were supposed to give us?
It would seem that America would be better off with those BILLIONS of
DOLLARS of tax revenue than the empty promises that the Republican
Party never delivers on.
"America would be better off with" which "billions?"
--
Neolibertarian
"Global Warming: It ain't the heat, it's the stupidity."
We obviously see that the BILLIONS OF BUSH TAX CUTS were not
beneficial except to the needy millionaries/billionaries.

TMT
Neolibertarian
2012-10-30 01:44:53 UTC
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In article
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by Neolibertarian
In article
Post by Too_Many_Tools
With all the promises that the Tea Party and Republican Party offer
us, one that they don't talk about is where are all the MILLIONS of
jobs that the BILLION DOLLAR Bush tax cuts were supposed to give us?
It would seem that America would be better off with those BILLIONS of
DOLLARS of tax revenue than the empty promises that the Republican
Party never delivers on.
"America would be better off with" which "billions?"
--
Neolibertarian
"Global Warming: It ain't the heat, it's the stupidity."
We obviously see that the BILLIONS OF BUSH TAX CUTS were not
beneficial except to the needy millionaries/billionaries.
Oh, you mean that the US Government needed those invisible $billions.

Why is that?
--
Neolibertarian

"Global Warming: It ain't the heat, it's the stupidity."
Jay Herblock
2012-10-29 04:51:25 UTC
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Post by Too_Many_Tools
With all the promises that the Tea Party and Republican Party offer
us, one that they don't talk about is where are all the MILLIONS of
jobs that the BILLION DOLLAR Bush tax cuts were supposed to give us?
It would seem that America would be better off with those BILLIONS of
DOLLARS of tax revenue than the empty promises that the Republican
Party never delivers on.
Let those needy millionaires/billionairies of the 47% actually work
for a living.....
TMT
The billionaire parasites don't know how to work.
They just know how to suck - like all parasites do.
..And the repooplicon stooges cheer!
Gunner
2012-10-29 06:12:50 UTC
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On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 21:51:25 -0700 (PDT), Jay Herblock
Post by Jay Herblock
Post by Too_Many_Tools
With all the promises that the Tea Party and Republican Party offer
us, one that they don't talk about is where are all the MILLIONS of
jobs that the BILLION DOLLAR Bush tax cuts were supposed to give us?
It would seem that America would be better off with those BILLIONS of
DOLLARS of tax revenue than the empty promises that the Republican
Party never delivers on.
Let those needy millionaires/billionairies of the 47% actually work
for a living.....
TMT
The billionaire parasites don't know how to work.
They just know how to suck - like all parasites do.
..And the repooplicon stooges cheer!
So Jerb Haylock....you are an OWS member arnt you?


--
"President Obama is not going to lose. He will be re-elected. It is those of
you who have these grand fantasies of that pip-squeak Romney actually having
a chance at winning the election that will have to wake up to reality the
day after the election. I hear there is plenty of room in the rest of the
world where you can reside and establish new citizenship.
Kirby Grant,<***@yahoo.com>
pyotr filipivich
2012-10-29 16:44:09 UTC
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Post by Gunner
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 21:51:25 -0700 (PDT), Jay Herblock
Post by Jay Herblock
Post by Too_Many_Tools
With all the promises that the Tea Party and Republican Party offer
us, one that they don't talk about is where are all the MILLIONS of
jobs that the BILLION DOLLAR Bush tax cuts were supposed to give us?
It would seem that America would be better off with those BILLIONS of
DOLLARS of tax revenue than the empty promises that the Republican
Party never delivers on.
Let those needy millionaires/billionairies of the 47% actually work
for a living.....
TMT
The billionaire parasites don't know how to work.
They just know how to suck - like all parasites do.
..And the repooplicon stooges cheer!
So Jerb Haylock....you are an OWS member arnt you?
Both of them demonstrate they lack the one essential element
necessary to become a billionaire. The ability to examine facts as
they are, think critically about their import, and plan accordingly.
All we get from lefties are feeling about situations, emotional
responses, and grandiose schemes based upon what they feel should be
the outcome.

--
pyotr filipivich
Most journalists these days couldn't investigate a missing chocolate cake
at a pre-school without a Democrat office holder telling them what to look for,
where, and why it is Geroge Bush's fault.
Gunner
2012-10-29 20:14:10 UTC
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On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 09:44:09 -0700, pyotr filipivich
Post by pyotr filipivich
Post by Gunner
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 21:51:25 -0700 (PDT), Jay Herblock
Post by Jay Herblock
Post by Too_Many_Tools
With all the promises that the Tea Party and Republican Party offer
us, one that they don't talk about is where are all the MILLIONS of
jobs that the BILLION DOLLAR Bush tax cuts were supposed to give us?
It would seem that America would be better off with those BILLIONS of
DOLLARS of tax revenue than the empty promises that the Republican
Party never delivers on.
Let those needy millionaires/billionairies of the 47% actually work
for a living.....
TMT
The billionaire parasites don't know how to work.
They just know how to suck - like all parasites do.
..And the repooplicon stooges cheer!
So Jerb Haylock....you are an OWS member arnt you?
Both of them demonstrate they lack the one essential element
necessary to become a billionaire. The ability to examine facts as
they are, think critically about their import, and plan accordingly.
All we get from lefties are feeling about situations, emotional
responses, and grandiose schemes based upon what they feel should be
the outcome.
--
pyotr filipivich
Most journalists these days couldn't investigate a missing chocolate cake
at a pre-school without a Democrat office holder telling them what to look for,
where, and why it is Geroge Bush's fault.
"The Democratic constituency is just like a herd of cows. All you have
to do is lay out enough silage and they come running. That’s why I
became an operative working with Democrats. With Democrats all you
have to do is make a lot of noise, lay out the hay, and be ready to
use the ole cattle prod in case a few want to bolt the herd.

Eighty percent of the people who call themselves Democrats don’t have
a clue as to political reality.
What amazes me is that you could take a group of people who are hard
workers and convince them that they should support social programs
that were the exact opposite of their own personal convictions. Put a
little fear here and there and you can get people to vote any way you
want.

The voter is basically dumb and lazy. The reason I became a Democratic
operative instead of a Republican was because there were more
Democrats that didn’t have a clue than there were Republicans."
James Carvell, DNC operative





--
"President Obama is not going to lose. He will be re-elected. It is those of
you who have these grand fantasies of that pip-squeak Romney actually having
a chance at winning the election that will have to wake up to reality the
day after the election. I hear there is plenty of room in the rest of the
world where you can reside and establish new citizenship.
Kirby Grant,<***@yahoo.com>
CRV
2012-10-29 06:27:22 UTC
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In article <4cbda5f0-6228-4a3d-b411-
Post by Jay Herblock
Post by Too_Many_Tools
With all the promises that the Tea Party and Republican Party offer
us, one that they don't talk about is where are all the MILLIONS of
jobs that the BILLION DOLLAR Bush tax cuts were supposed to give us?
It would seem that America would be better off with those BILLIONS of
DOLLARS of tax revenue than the empty promises that the Republican
Party never delivers on.
Let those needy millionaires/billionairies of the 47% actually work
for a living.....
TMT
The billionaire parasites don't know how to work.
They just know how to suck -
like all democrat parasites do.
F. George McDuffee
2012-10-29 06:38:18 UTC
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On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 21:51:25 -0700 (PDT), Jay Herblock
Post by Jay Herblock
Post by Too_Many_Tools
With all the promises that the Tea Party and Republican Party offer
us, one that they don't talk about is where are all the MILLIONS of
jobs that the BILLION DOLLAR Bush tax cuts were supposed to give us?
It would seem that America would be better off with those BILLIONS of
DOLLARS of tax revenue than the empty promises that the Republican
Party never delivers on.
Let those needy millionaires/billionairies of the 47% actually work
for a living.....
TMT
The billionaire parasites don't know how to work.
They just know how to suck - like all parasites do.
..And the repooplicon stooges cheer!
===============

As the national and global economy "transmogrifies*" with
amazing (and accelerating) speed, many of the old
assumptions, rules-of-thumb, etc. are no longer productive
and indeed some are even increasing destructive. Everything
has its point of "diminishing returns." You may find the
following instructive and/or of interest:

http://news.asiaone.com/A1Business/General%2BNews/Story/A1Story20121029-380138.html

BIS article cited above
https://www.bis.org/publ/work381.pdf

* Calvin and Hobbs
--
Unka' George

"Gold is the money of kings,
silver is the money of gentlemen,
barter is the money of peasants,
but debt is the money of slaves"

-Norm Franz, "Money and Wealth in the New Millenium"
Gray Guest
2012-10-29 18:02:31 UTC
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Post by Jay Herblock
Post by Too_Many_Tools
With all the promises that the Tea Party and Republican Party offer
us, one that they don't talk about is where are all the MILLIONS of
jobs that the BILLION DOLLAR Bush tax cuts were supposed to give us?
It would seem that America would be better off with those BILLIONS of
DOLLARS of tax revenue than the empty promises that the Republican
Party never delivers on.
Let those needy millionaires/billionairies of the 47% actually work
for a living.....
TMT
The billionaire parasites don't know how to work.
They just know how to suck - like all parasites do.
..And the repooplicon stooges cheer!
Spoken like a useless eater parasite with no marketable skills.
--
Refusenik #1

Libs suffer from Eleutherophobia. And there is no cure.
Too_Many_Tools
2012-10-30 03:57:21 UTC
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Post by Gray Guest
Post by Jay Herblock
Post by Too_Many_Tools
With all the promises that the Tea Party and Republican Party offer
us, one that they don't talk about is where are all the MILLIONS of
jobs that the BILLION DOLLAR Bush tax cuts were supposed to give us?
It would seem that America would be better off with those BILLIONS of
DOLLARS of tax revenue than the empty promises that the Republican
Party never delivers on.
Let those needy millionaires/billionairies of the 47% actually work
for a living.....
TMT
The billionaire parasites don't know how to work.
They just know how to suck - like all parasites do.
..And the repooplicon stooges cheer!
Spoken like a useless eater parasite with no marketable skills.
--
Refusenik #1
Libs suffer from Eleutherophobia. And there is no cure.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
LOL....so says the Herman "The Perv" Cain supporter who can't get his
refund back.

SUCKER!!!!

TMT

Too_Many_Fools
2012-10-29 18:37:41 UTC
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LAUGH..LAUGH..LAUGH..
LOL…Left-Wing Activist And Filmmaker Oliver Stone Rips Obozo A New
Asshole!
Politico: A new book from filmmaker Oliver Stone offers a scathing
critique of President Barack Obama’s time in office…
http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=F58D791C-7FFF-42B2-9A65-C4E932194C31
LAUGH..LAUGH..LAUGH..
“The country Obama inherited was indeed in shambles, but Obama took a
bad situation and, in certain ways, made it worse,” Stone and Kuznick
wrote.
LAUGH..LAUGH..LAUGH..
Post by Too_Many_Tools
With all the promises that the Tea Party and Republican Party offer
us, one that they don't talk about is where are all the MILLIONS of
jobs that the BILLION DOLLAR Bush tax cuts were supposed to give us?
It would seem that America would be better off with those BILLIONS of
DOLLARS of tax revenue than the empty promises that the Republican
Party never delivers on.
Let those needy millionaires/billionairies of the 47% actually work
for a living.....
TMT
RogerN
2012-10-29 21:44:23 UTC
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Post by Too_Many_Tools
With all the promises that the Tea Party and Republican Party offer
us, one that they don't talk about is where are all the MILLIONS of
jobs that the BILLION DOLLAR Bush tax cuts were supposed to give us?
It would seem that America would be better off with those BILLIONS of
DOLLARS of tax revenue than the empty promises that the Republican
Party never delivers on.
Let those needy millionaires/billionairies of the 47% actually work
for a living.....
TMT
Democrats lied, the people that believed the lies elected Democrats, and the
Democrats destroyed the economy after they got control on Jan 3, 2007
:

SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT BEFORE YOU VOTE...


Some people have short memories..

DO YOU REMEMBER JANUARY 3, 2007?

This is NOT a political message, but rather a clarification to remind us all
of the correct facts.

Remember that on October 9, 2007, 11 months before our "economic crisis"
occurred (that was actually created), the Dow hit its highest point ever,
closing at 14,164.53 and reaching 14,198.10 intra-day level. Unemployment
was holding steady at 4.7%. But things were already being put in place to
create the havoc we've all been experiencing since then. And it all started,
as this email explains, on January 3, 2007.

I'm sending this to each of you regardless of your party preferences because
I believe it is something you may not have considered.

This tells the story, why Bush was so "bad" at the end of his term.

Don't just skim over this, it's not very long, read it slowly and let it
sink in. If in doubt, check it out!!!

The day the Democrats took over was not January 22nd 2009, it was actually
January 3rd 2007, which was the day the Democrats took over the House of
Representatives and the Senate, at the very start of the 110th Congress.

The Democrat Party controlled a majority in both chambers for the first time
since the end of the 103rd Congress in 1995.

For those who are listening to the liberals propagating the fallacy that
everything is "Bush's Fault", think about this: January 3rd, 2007 was the
day the Democrats took over the Senate and the Congress.

At the time:
The DOW Jones closed at 12,621.77
The GDP for the previous quarter was 3.5%
The Unemployment rate was 4.6%
George Bush's Economic policies SET A RECORD of 52 STRAIGHT MONTHS of JOB
GROWTH

Remember the day...
January 3rd, 2007 was the day that Barney Frank took over the House
Financial Services Committee and Chris Dodd took over the Senate Banking
Committee. The economic meltdown that happened 15 months later was in what
part of the economy? BANKING AND FINANCIAL SERVICES!

Unemployment... to this CRISIS by (among MANY other things) dumping 5-6
TRILLION Dollars of toxic loans on the economy from YOUR Fannie Mae and
Freddie Mac FIASCOES!

Bush asked Congress 17 TIMES to stop Fannie & Freddie - starting in 2001
because it was financially risky for the US economy.

And who took the THIRD highest pay-off from Fannie Mae AND Freddie Mac?
OBAMA And who fought against reform of Fannie and Freddie? OBAMA and the
Democrat Congress.

So when someone tries to blame Bush. REMEMBER JANUARY 3rd, 2007.... THE DAY
THE DEMOCRATS TOOK OVER!"

Budgets do not come from the White House. They come from Congress and the
party that controlled Congress since January 2007 is the Democrat Party.

Furthermore, the Democrats controlled the budget process for 2008 & 2009 as
well as 2010 & 2011.

In that first year, they had to contend with George Bush, which caused them
to compromise on spending, when Bush somewhat belatedly got tough on
spending increases.

For 2009 though, Nancy Pelosi & Harry Reid bypassed George Bush entirely,
passing continuing resolutions to keep government running until Barack Obama
could take office. At that time, they passed a massive omnibus spending bill
to complete the 2009 budgets.

And where was Barack Obama during this time? He was a member of that very
Congress that passed all of these massive spending bills, and he signed the
omnibus bill as President to complete 2009.

If the Democrats inherited any deficit, it was the 2007 deficit, the last of
the Republican budgets. That deficit was the lowest in five
years, and the fourth straight decline in deficit spending. After that,
Democrats in Congress took control of spending, and that
includes Barack Obama, who voted for the budgets.

If Obama inherited anything, he inherited it from himself. In a nutshell,
what Obama is saying is I inherited a deficit that I voted
for and then I voted to expand that deficit four-fold since January 20th.

There is no way this will be widely publicized, unless each of us sends it
on!

PLEASE DO YOUR PART !!!

In God We Trust
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