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Hugo Chavez dies
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George Plimpton
2013-03-05 22:33:29 UTC
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Good. He was an oppressive asshole who made life worse for Venezuelans.
Fred G. Smit
2013-03-05 23:03:33 UTC
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Post by George Plimpton
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he was a great baseball player ..
SpamBuster
2013-03-05 23:07:03 UTC
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China Blue Clay
2013-03-05 23:05:28 UTC
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Gosh. That's so sad. Are they dancing in the streets to mourn him?
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Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E
2013-03-06 00:28:10 UTC
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Gosh. That's so sad. Are they dancing in the streets to mourn him?
Hell no. They're terrified Chavez might be replaced by someone
other than a radical, America hating Marxist that'll cut-off their
entitlements. But, Chavez's family should do quite well since Hugo
Chavez, the man of the people, amassed a fortune of over $2 billion
while "his people" live like rat's in a sewer.
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Ramon F Herrera
2013-03-06 00:33:17 UTC
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while "his people" live like rat's in a sewer.
You are confused with North Korea.

-Ramon
SpamBuster
2013-03-06 01:42:46 UTC
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Post by Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E
while "his people" live like rat's in a sewer.
On 3/5/2013 4:33 PM, Ramon F Herrera wrote:
You are confused with North Korea. -Ramon
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Frank
2013-03-06 19:44:44 UTC
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On Mar 5, 6:28 pm, "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E"
Post by Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E
while "his people" live like rat's in a sewer.
You are confused with North Korea.
-Ramon
Yo, Ramon, now you can go back to the land of your birth ;)
Dave Smith
2013-03-05 23:10:54 UTC
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Post by George Plimpton
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Good. He was an oppressive asshole who made life worse for Venezuelans.
We should buy flowers.... for ourselves.
Wayne
2013-03-05 23:39:16 UTC
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Post by George Plimpton
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Good. He was an oppressive asshole who made life worse for Venezuelans.
Ramon Pedejo Herrera is going to be in mourning for weeks.
Frank
2013-03-06 00:02:11 UTC
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Good. He was an oppressive asshole who made life worse for Venezuelans.
Flags are flying at half mast in Hollywood.

Robert Kennedy Jr is disconsolate on the lose of his sponsor.
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2013-03-06 00:25:10 UTC
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Frank
2013-03-06 00:42:47 UTC
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On 3/5/2013 7:25 PM, SpamBuster wrote:

Aw go bust yourself.
Barry Bruyea
2013-03-06 00:18:41 UTC
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Post by George Plimpton
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Good. He was an oppressive asshole who made life worse for Venezuelans.
Sean Penn, Danny Glover & Oliver Stone seem to have a different
opinion, which makes one wonder how the hell they get through each day
and survive getting hit by cars, buses and falling buildings.
Denny
2013-03-06 01:17:00 UTC
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Post by George Plimpton
http://www.latimes.com/news/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-chavez-dies-20130305
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Good. He was an oppressive asshole who made life worse for Venezuelans.
Sean Penn, Danny Glover & Oliver Stone seem to have a different
opinion, which makes one wonder how the hell they get through each day
and survive getting hit by cars, buses and falling buildings.
Do you know why celebrities are almost always liberal? Because very
talented people are rarely stupid
Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E
2013-03-06 01:45:15 UTC
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Post by Denny
Post by Barry Bruyea
Post by George Plimpton
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Good.  He was an oppressive asshole who made life worse for Venezuelans.
Sean Penn, Danny Glover & Oliver Stone seem to have a different
opinion, which makes one wonder how the hell they get through each day
and survive getting hit by cars, buses and falling buildings.
Do you know why celebrities are almost always liberal? Because very
talented people are rarely stupid
Is that right? So you think standing in front of a camera and reciting
memorized lines for $millions a year means you're not stupid????
Denny
2013-03-06 02:36:25 UTC
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Good. =A0He was an oppressive asshole who made life worse for
Venezuel=
ans.
Post by Denny
Post by Barry Bruyea
Sean Penn, Danny Glover & Oliver Stone seem to have a different
opinion, which makes one wonder how the hell they get through each
day and survive getting hit by cars, buses and falling buildings.
Do you know why celebrities are almost always liberal? Because very
talented people are rarely stupid
Now that you put it like that...if I was smarter maybe i could figure out
how to get a gig like that. Sounds sweet! Anyway you gotta root for Oliver
Stone. He's a Vietnam vet, two tours.
Post by Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E
Is that right? So you think standing in front of a camera and reciting
memorized lines for $millions a year means you're not stupid????
Jim Wilkins
2013-03-06 03:09:53 UTC
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"Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E"
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On Tue, 05 Mar 2013 14:33:29 -0800, George Plimpton
Post by George Plimpton
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,0,7894283.story
Good. He was an oppressive asshole who made life worse for
Venezuelans.
Sean Penn, Danny Glover & Oliver Stone seem to have a different
opinion, which makes one wonder how the hell they get through each day
and survive getting hit by cars, buses and falling buildings.
Do you know why celebrities are almost always liberal? Because very
talented people are rarely stupid
-Is that right? So you think standing in front of a camera and
reciting
-memorized lines for $millions a year means you're not stupid????

He's never tried to teach them how to use a screwdriver.

Very talented people are often hopelessly neurotic wrecks who have
learned how to make a living expressing it.

On tonight's "Smash"
"If you're two-faced, make sure at least one of them is pretty".
Jim Wilkins
2013-03-06 03:50:54 UTC
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Post by Jim Wilkins
Very talented people are often hopelessly neurotic wrecks who have
learned how to make a living expressing it.
http://www.funnyordie.com/
George Plimpton
2013-03-06 01:47:36 UTC
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Post by Denny
Post by Barry Bruyea
Post by George Plimpton
http://www.latimes.com/news/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-chavez-dies-20130305
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Good. He was an oppressive asshole who made life worse for Venezuelans.
Sean Penn, Danny Glover & Oliver Stone seem to have a different
opinion, which makes one wonder how the hell they get through each day
and survive getting hit by cars, buses and falling buildings.
Do you know why celebrities are almost always liberal? Because very
talented people are rarely stupid
Celebrities seldom have talent and are usually stupid. Liberalism,
particularly of the hyperemotional, reflexive, unthinking kind
exemplified by Hollywood celebrities, *IS* stupidity itself. Sean Penn
and Oliver Stone are monumentally stupid people. Sean Penn couldn't
find his own ass with both hands and a flashlight. Penn is too much
even for some Hollywood celebrities - one called him a "communist
asshole", which is exactly right.
http://dailycaller.com/2011/12/20/finally-actress-tells-sean-penn-hes-a-communist-asshole-video/

Communist assholes are always stupid.
Denny
2013-03-06 02:43:00 UTC
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Post by Denny
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Post by George Plimpton
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305 ,0,7894283.story
Good. He was an oppressive asshole who made life worse for Venezuelans.
Sean Penn, Danny Glover & Oliver Stone seem to have a different
opinion, which makes one wonder how the hell they get through each day
and survive getting hit by cars, buses and falling buildings.
Do you know why celebrities are almost always liberal? Because very
talented people are rarely stupid
Celebrities seldom have talent and are usually stupid. Liberalism,
particularly of the hyperemotional, reflexive, unthinking kind
exemplified by Hollywood celebrities, *IS* stupidity itself. Sean Penn
and Oliver Stone are monumentally stupid people. Sean Penn couldn't
find his own ass with both hands and a flashlight. Penn is too much
even for some Hollywood celebrities - one called him a "communist
asshole", which is exactly right.
http://dailycaller.com/2011/12/20/finally-actress-tells-sean-penn-hes-a-c
ommunist-asshole-video/
Communist assholes are always stupid.
Ah I know where you got your info, you watch Bill O'Reilly. He's always
talking about actors who express liberal views. Yeah I watch Bill, 2 or 3
times a week after Hardball. I realyy prefer The Five and Brett Blair, but
rarely get home in time to watch them. Any righties ever watch MSNBC?
George Plimpton
2013-03-06 02:46:30 UTC
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Post by George Plimpton
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Post by George Plimpton
http://www.latimes.com/news/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-chavez-dies-20130
305 ,0,7894283.story
Good. He was an oppressive asshole who made life worse for Venezuelans.
Sean Penn, Danny Glover & Oliver Stone seem to have a different
opinion, which makes one wonder how the hell they get through each day
and survive getting hit by cars, buses and falling buildings.
Do you know why celebrities are almost always liberal? Because very
talented people are rarely stupid
Celebrities seldom have talent and are usually stupid. Liberalism,
particularly of the hyperemotional, reflexive, unthinking kind
exemplified by Hollywood celebrities, *IS* stupidity itself. Sean Penn
and Oliver Stone are monumentally stupid people. Sean Penn couldn't
find his own ass with both hands and a flashlight. Penn is too much
even for some Hollywood celebrities - one called him a "communist
asshole", which is exactly right.
http://dailycaller.com/2011/12/20/finally-actress-tells-sean-penn-hes-a-c
ommunist-asshole-video/
Communist assholes are always stupid.
Ah I know where you got your info, you watch Bill O'Reilly.
No.
Denny
2013-03-06 02:58:08 UTC
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Good. He was an oppressive asshole who made life worse for Venezuelans.
Sean Penn, Danny Glover & Oliver Stone seem to have a different
opinion, which makes one wonder how the hell they get through each
day and survive getting hit by cars, buses and falling buildings.
Do you know why celebrities are almost always liberal? Because very
talented people are rarely stupid
Celebrities seldom have talent and are usually stupid. Liberalism,
particularly of the hyperemotional, reflexive, unthinking kind
exemplified by Hollywood celebrities, *IS* stupidity itself. Sean
Penn and Oliver Stone are monumentally stupid people. Sean Penn
couldn't find his own ass with both hands and a flashlight. Penn is
too much even for some Hollywood celebrities - one called him a
"communist asshole", which is exactly right.
http://dailycaller.com/2011/12/20/finally-actress-tells-sean-penn-hes-
a-c ommunist-asshole-video/
Communist assholes are always stupid.
Ah I know where you got your info, you watch Bill O'Reilly.
No.
You should. He's the nexus, the King Of Conservatives. All the sinuous
tentrils go through him. Very informative and revealing.
But a lot of times he gets so obnoxius, I gotta hit the off button
George Plimpton
2013-03-06 03:36:53 UTC
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Post by George Plimpton
http://www.latimes.com/news/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-chavez-dies-201
30 305 ,0,7894283.story
Good. He was an oppressive asshole who made life worse for Venezuelans.
Sean Penn, Danny Glover & Oliver Stone seem to have a different
opinion, which makes one wonder how the hell they get through each
day and survive getting hit by cars, buses and falling buildings.
Do you know why celebrities are almost always liberal? Because very
talented people are rarely stupid
Celebrities seldom have talent and are usually stupid. Liberalism,
particularly of the hyperemotional, reflexive, unthinking kind
exemplified by Hollywood celebrities, *IS* stupidity itself. Sean
Penn and Oliver Stone are monumentally stupid people. Sean Penn
couldn't find his own ass with both hands and a flashlight. Penn is
too much even for some Hollywood celebrities - one called him a
"communist asshole", which is exactly right.
http://dailycaller.com/2011/12/20/finally-actress-tells-sean-penn-hes-
a-c ommunist-asshole-video/
Communist assholes are always stupid.
Ah I know where you got your info, you watch Bill O'Reilly.
No.
You should. He's the nexus, the King Of Conservatives.
I don't watch TV, and I'm not conservative.

"Tentril" isn't a word.
David R. Birch
2013-03-06 04:08:29 UTC
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Post by George Plimpton
Celebrities seldom have talent and are usually stupid. Liberalism,
particularly of the hyperemotional, reflexive, unthinking kind
exemplified by Hollywood celebrities, *IS* stupidity itself. Sean Penn
and Oliver Stone are monumentally stupid people. Sean Penn couldn't
find his own ass with both hands and a flashlight. Penn is too much
even for some Hollywood celebrities - one called him a "communist
asshole", which is exactly right.
http://dailycaller.com/2011/12/20/finally-actress-tells-sean-penn-hes-a-communist-asshole-video/
Communist assholes are always stupid.
I don't think that's quite fair to poor Sean.

I'm sure he was an asshole long before he became a communist.

David
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Barry Bruyea
2013-03-06 11:11:36 UTC
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Post by Denny
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Post by George Plimpton
http://www.latimes.com/news/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-chavez-dies-20130305
,0,7894283.story
Good. He was an oppressive asshole who made life worse for Venezuelans.
Sean Penn, Danny Glover & Oliver Stone seem to have a different
opinion, which makes one wonder how the hell they get through each day
and survive getting hit by cars, buses and falling buildings.
Do you know why celebrities are almost always liberal? Because very
talented people are rarely stupid
Doesn't seem to be all that rare, given the number of useful idiots
that reside in the Hollywood bubble.
twestman
2013-03-06 03:44:41 UTC
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Post by Barry Bruyea
Post by George Plimpton
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5,0,7894283.story
Good. He was an oppressive asshole who made life worse for
Venezuelans.
Sean Penn, Danny Glover & Oliver Stone seem to have a different
opinion, which makes one wonder how the hell they get through each day
and survive getting hit by cars, buses and falling buildings.
Sean Penn and the others are communist parasites who would be scrubbing
public toilets if they had not whored themselves in Hollywood.


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Chom Noamsky
2013-03-06 02:08:06 UTC
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Post by George Plimpton
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Good. He was an oppressive asshole who made life worse for Venezuelans.
What is it with Marxists and cancer... oh wait, they are cancer.
Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E
2013-03-06 02:11:35 UTC
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Good.  He was an oppressive asshole who made life worse for Venezuelans.
What is it with Marxists and cancer... oh wait, they are cancer.
I'd love to have been a fly on the wall when Hugo reached the pearly
gates. I bet ol' St.pete didn't say a word, just shook his head and
pointed towards the down elevator. LOL !!
Orval Fairbairn
2013-03-06 05:14:25 UTC
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Good.  He was an oppressive asshole who made life worse for Venezuelans.
What is it with Marxists and cancer... oh wait, they are cancer.
I'd love to have been a fly on the wall when Hugo reached the pearly
gates. I bet ol' St.pete didn't say a word, just shook his head and
pointed towards the down elevator. LOL !!
Hugo mentioned "smelling the sulfur" when he addressed the UN a few
years ago. I wonder how much sulfur he is smelling now.
Denny
2013-03-06 05:32:34 UTC
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Good.  He was an oppressive asshole who made life worse for Venezuelans.
What is it with Marxists and cancer... oh wait, they are cancer.
I'd love to have been a fly on the wall when Hugo reached the pearly
gates. I bet ol' St.pete didn't say a word, just shook his head and
pointed towards the down elevator. LOL !!
Hugo mentioned "smelling the sulfur" when he addressed the UN a few
years ago. I wonder how much sulfur he is smelling now.
In your theology, does every socialist, communist, et al, go to hell?
How about Pinochet, a murderer, but a right-winger, allied with the US?
George Plimpton
2013-03-06 07:27:39 UTC
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Good. He was an oppressive asshole who made life worse for Venezuelans.
What is it with Marxists and cancer... oh wait, they are cancer.
I'd love to have been a fly on the wall when Hugo reached the pearly
gates. I bet ol' St.pete didn't say a word, just shook his head and
pointed towards the down elevator. LOL !!
Hugo mentioned "smelling the sulfur" when he addressed the UN a few
years ago. I wonder how much sulfur he is smelling now.
In your theology, does every socialist, communist, et al, go to hell?
How about Pinochet, a murderer, but a right-winger, allied with the US?
Pinochet was not allied with the US.

All totalitarians go to hell. Pinochet, Chavez, Hitler, Stalin, Mao -
they're all in hell. Totalitarians are always murderers, and murderers
go to hell.
Orval Fairbairn
2013-03-06 17:43:30 UTC
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Good.  He was an oppressive asshole who made life worse for Venezuelans.
What is it with Marxists and cancer... oh wait, they are cancer.
I'd love to have been a fly on the wall when Hugo reached the pearly
gates. I bet ol' St.pete didn't say a word, just shook his head and
pointed towards the down elevator. LOL !!
Hugo mentioned "smelling the sulfur" when he addressed the UN a few
years ago. I wonder how much sulfur he is smelling now.
In your theology, does every socialist, communist, et al, go to hell?
How about Pinochet, a murderer, but a right-winger, allied with the US?
No -- all tyrants and oppressors go there, including your leftist heroes
like Stalin, lenin, Mao, Pol Pot, Saddam Hussein, Hugo Chavez, Fidel and
Raul Castro, Che Guevara, Kim il Sung, Kim Sung Il, Benito Mussolini and
Adolph Hitler, go there, as well as Pinochet, Chaing Kai Chek, Francisco
Franco, Attila the Hun, most of the Caesars and a host of other tyrants
throughout h
istory.
Why are people so cruel
2013-03-06 08:08:35 UTC
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Good. He was an oppressive asshole who made life worse for Venezuelans.
And was elected in democratic elections on three or four (?) occasions by
the
majority of Venezuelans - seems to me he made life better for the exploited
classes and made life harder for those that did the exploiting whereas the
USA
has elections which are won by those with the deepest pockets and do very
little to improve the living conditions of the great majority of Americans -
but
seem very happy to bail out their mates on Wall St and in Detroit and then
allow them to shove it up the average Joe.
George Plimpton
2013-03-06 15:02:43 UTC
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Good. He was an oppressive asshole who made life worse for Venezuelans.
And was elected in democratic elections on three or four (?) occasions
Once. All the reelections were fraudulent.
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seems to me he made life better for the exploited
classes and made life harder for those that did the exploiting
Bullshit. That's just left-wing spew. Like any socialist, he stole
from producers and redistributed to parasitic do-nothing consumers.
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[ignorant but predictable Occutard bullshit snipped]
Denny
2013-03-06 17:45:32 UTC
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Good. He was an oppressive asshole who made life worse for
Venezuelans.
And was elected in democratic elections on three or four (?) occasions
Once. All the reelections were fraudulent.
Post by Why are people so cruel
seems to me he made life better for the exploited
classes and made life harder for those that did the exploiting
Bullshit. That's just left-wing spew. Like any socialist, he stole
from producers and redistributed to parasitic do-nothing consumers.
Post by Why are people so cruel
[ignorant but predictable Occutard bullshit snipped]
Occutard? What the hell is that. Your cutesy little tardwords really
impress.
George Plimpton
2013-03-06 18:09:16 UTC
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Good. He was an oppressive asshole who made life worse for
Venezuelans.
And was elected in democratic elections on three or four (?) occasions
Once. All the reelections were fraudulent.
Post by Why are people so cruel
seems to me he made life better for the exploited
classes and made life harder for those that did the exploiting
Bullshit. That's just left-wing spew. Like any socialist, he stole
from producers and redistributed to parasitic do-nothing consumers.
Post by Why are people so cruel
[ignorant but predictable Occutard bullshit snipped]
Occutard? What the hell is that. Your cutesy little tardwords really
impress.
It's a portmanteau word combining "occupy movement" and "retard", and it
fits you like a glove. See
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=occutard
Why are people so cruel
2013-03-07 01:42:20 UTC
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http://www.latimes.com/news/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-chavez-dies-20130305,0,7894283.story
Good. He was an oppressive asshole who made life worse for Venezuelans.
And was elected in democratic elections on three or four (?) occasions
Once. All the reelections were fraudulent.
Post by Why are people so cruel
seems to me he made life better for the exploited
classes and made life harder for those that did the exploiting
Bullshit. That's just left-wing spew. Like any socialist, he stole from
producers and redistributed to parasitic do-nothing consumers.
Thats rich coming from someone who would find it difficult to understand
what democracy means, most non US citizens know what it means.
Majority rules - not the minority with the largest wallets. What you are
advocating is corporate fascism - but that has been US foreign policy
since 1945, especially in South America with support of extreme right
wing movements. Corporate fascism is alive and well in the US - just
look at how easy it was for the big banks and Wall St investors to get
bailed out with taxpayers money, the majority of Americans had nothing
invetsed with those businesses.
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F. George McDuffee
2013-03-07 06:05:27 UTC
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<***@microsoft.com> wrote:
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Post by Why are people so cruel
What you are
advocating is corporate fascism - but that has been US foreign policy
since 1945, especially in South America with support of extreme right
wing movements.
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a few cites

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spruille_Braden
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Condor
http://news.yahoo.com/operation-condor-trial-begins-buenos-aires-175356537.html
http://news.yahoo.com/venezuela-expel-us-embassy-official-182540123.html
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"Gold is the money of kings,
silver is the money of gentlemen,
barter is the money of peasants,
but debt is the money of slaves"

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George Plimpton
2013-03-07 06:06:57 UTC
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Post by George Plimpton
Post by Why are people so cruel
Post by George Plimpton
http://www.latimes.com/news/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-chavez-dies-20130305,0,7894283.story
Good. He was an oppressive asshole who made life worse for
Venezuelans.
And was elected in democratic elections on three or four (?) occasions
Once. All the reelections were fraudulent.
Post by Why are people so cruel
seems to me he made life better for the exploited
classes and made life harder for those that did the exploiting
Bullshit. That's just left-wing spew. Like any socialist, he stole
from producers and redistributed to parasitic do-nothing consumers.
Thats rich coming from someone who would find it difficult to understand
what democracy means, most non US citizens know what it means.
I know full well what it means, and I know that most non US citizens
have no *clue* what it means because they've never had it, and it's
wholly alien to their culture and their reality.
Post by Why are people so cruel
Majority rules - not the minority with the largest wallets.
The majority may not dispossess the minority.
Post by Why are people so cruel
What you are advocating is corporate fascism
No.
Post by Why are people so cruel
but that has been US foreign policysince
No. Now you're just swearing. "Corporate fascism" is just left-wing
foul language. It doesn't mean anything. Leftists occutards like you
consider *any* recognition of private property to be "corporate
fascism." Why don't you just call all private property "fucking
bullshit" - you'd at least be more honest with yourself if you did, even
if it still would reveal you to be a clueless occutard fainéant.
Rollo
2013-03-06 21:35:39 UTC
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Post by George Plimpton
http://www.latimes.com/news/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-chavez-dies-20130305,0,7894283.story
snipped for brevity.
Post by George Plimpton
whereas the USA has elections which are won by those with the deepest
pockets and do very
little to improve the living conditions of the great majority of Americans -
Wrong. Are won by jobless welfare breeders and pro-illegals with an
agenda. Those parasites are bringing the USA down. The middle class
and rich pay more taxes, and the welfare breeders get free iPhones.

You can bet the budget cuts will not effect the breeders.
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2013-03-06 22:39:41 UTC
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whereas the USA has elections which are won by those with the deepest
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Good. He was an oppressive asshole who made life worse for Venezuelans.
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Mikey
2013-03-06 22:42:23 UTC
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Post by George Plimpton
http://www.latimes.com/news/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-chavez-dies-20130305,0,7894283.story
Good. He was an oppressive asshole who made life worse for Venezuelans.
And was elected in democratic elections on three or four (?) occasions
by the
majority of Venezuelans - seems to me he made life better for the exploited
classes and made life harder for those that did the exploiting whereas
the USA
has elections which are won by those with the deepest pockets and do very
little to improve the living conditions of the great majority of
Americans - but
seem very happy to bail out their mates on Wall St and in Detroit and then
allow them to shove it up the average Joe.
You don't have a clue about Chavez or Venezuela.
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China Blue Clay
2013-03-06 23:46:48 UTC
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Post by Mikey
Post by Why are people so cruel
Post by George Plimpton
http://www.latimes.com/news/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-chavez-dies-20130305,0,
7894283.story
Good. He was an oppressive asshole who made life worse for Venezuelans.
And was elected in democratic elections on three or four (?) occasions
by the
majority of Venezuelans - seems to me he made life better for the exploited
classes and made life harder for those that did the exploiting whereas
the USA
has elections which are won by those with the deepest pockets and do very
little to improve the living conditions of the great majority of
Americans - but
seem very happy to bail out their mates on Wall St and in Detroit and then
allow them to shove it up the average Joe.
You don't have a clue about Chavez or Venezuela.
I don't live there either.
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2013-03-07 03:04:43 UTC
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Post by George Plimpton
http://www.latimes.com/news/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-chavez-dies-20130305,0,7
894283.story
Good. He was an oppressive asshole who made life worse for Venezuelans.
And was elected in democratic elections on three or four (?) occasions by
the majority . . .
Just like Adolph Hitler and Joseph Stalin.


snicker
JohnJohnsn
2013-03-06 09:36:25 UTC
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http://www.latimes.com/news/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-chavez-dies-20130...
Good. He was an oppressive asshole who made life worse for Venezuelans.
Sean Penn and Other Hollywood Elite Worshipped Chavez
Tuesday, 05 Mar 2013 07:28 PM
By Bill Hoffmann

A host of Hollywood A-listers have rushed to support Hugo Chavez over
the years — the most glaring example of which was Sean Penn.

The Oscar-winning actor Penn continuously praised Chavez, saying he
generously helped his country’s poor and destitute and was a
fascinating and bold leader.

Chavez, who ruled Venezuela with an iron fist for 14 years, died on
Tuesday after battling cancer for two years. He had, over the years,
been feted by Hollywood's elite even as he remained a thorn in the
side of America's policies in the region.

During the Penn visit to Chavez, the loudmouth star ripped the
policies of President George W. Bush towards Chavez and once whipped
himself into such a frenzy that he reportedly called for the arrest of
those who referred to Chavez as a dictator.

“[Chavez is] one of the most important forces we've had on this
planet," Penn gushed late last year as the Venezuelan president’s
health deteriorated.

“And I’ll wish him nothing but that great strength he has shown over
and over again. I do it in love, and I do it in gratitude.

“I just want to say, from my very American point of view, of my friend
President Chavez: It is only possible to be so inspiring as he is, as
a two-way street.’’

Penn also accused the American media of going after Chavez and telling
“lies’’ about him.

The actor’s love of Chavez became so embarrassing to some in Hollywood
that Matt Stone and Trey Parker savagely lampooned him in their movie
"Team America: World Police" a parody that infuriated the star.

Penn had plenty of company when it came to his Chavez worship.

Other unabashed admirers included Kevin Spacey, Danny Glover, Oliver
Stone, Harry Belafonte, Naomi Campbell, and Princeton University
Professor Cornel West.

And some are nearly as critical as Penn.

Belafonte labeled George W. Bush the "greatest tyrant in the world,’’
while telling Chavez how “millions’’ of Americans supported him.

Boxing promoter Don King praised Chavez and his "revolution,’’
announcing, "To see what is happening here makes me feel good all
over.’’

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http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/chavez-celebrity-supporters-penn/2013/03/05/id/493301
George Plimpton
2013-03-06 15:12:37 UTC
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Post by JohnJohnsn
http://www.latimes.com/news/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-chavez-dies-20130...
Good. He was an oppressive asshole who made life worse for Venezuelans.
Sean Penn and Other Hollywood Elite Worshipped Chavez
Tuesday, 05 Mar 2013 07:28 PM
By Bill Hoffmann
A host of Hollywood A-listers have rushed to support Hugo Chavez over
the years — the most glaring example of which was Sean Penn.
The Oscar-winning actor Penn continuously praised Chavez, saying he
generously helped his country’s poor and destitute and was a
fascinating and bold leader.
Penn is an ignorant asshole.
Post by JohnJohnsn
Chavez, who ruled Venezuela with an iron fist for 14 years, died on
Tuesday after battling cancer for two years. He had, over the years,
been feted by Hollywood's elite even as he remained a thorn in the
side of America's policies in the region.
During the Penn visit to Chavez, the loudmouth star ripped the
policies of President George W. Bush towards Chavez and once whipped
himself into such a frenzy that he reportedly called for the arrest of
those who referred to Chavez as a dictator.
“[Chavez is] one of the most important forces we've had on this
planet," Penn gushed late last year as the Venezuelan president’s
health deteriorated.
“And I’ll wish him nothing but that great strength he has shown over
and over again. I do it in love, and I do it in gratitude.
“I just want to say, from my very American point of view, of my friend
President Chavez: It is only possible to be so inspiring as he is, as
a two-way street.’’
Penn also accused the American media of going after Chavez and telling
“lies’’ about him.
The actor’s love of Chavez became so embarrassing to some in Hollywood
that Matt Stone and Trey Parker savagely lampooned him in their movie
"Team America: World Police" a parody that infuriated the star.
Penn had plenty of company when it came to his Chavez worship.
Other unabashed admirers included Kevin Spacey, Danny Glover, Oliver
Stone, Harry Belafonte, Naomi Campbell, and Princeton University
Professor Cornel West.
And some are nearly as critical as Penn.
Belafonte labeled George W. Bush the "greatest tyrant in the world,’’
while telling Chavez how “millions’’ of Americans supported him.
Belafonte is an idiot, too. Bush was hardly a "tyrant". He was
undoubtedly the worst president of the last 100 years, possibly the
worst ever, but not a tyrant.
Post by JohnJohnsn
Boxing promoter Don King praised Chavez and his "revolution,’’
announcing, "To see what is happening here makes me feel good all
over.’’
Don King?!? Ha ha ha ha! King once described the American legal system
thusly: "That is why we have a system of justice; of 'Jewishprudence'."
http://www.johnspeedie.com/healy/justice.wav
Ed Huntress
2013-03-06 15:31:27 UTC
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Post by George Plimpton
Post by JohnJohnsn
http://www.latimes.com/news/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-chavez-dies-20130...
Good. He was an oppressive asshole who made life worse for Venezuelans.
Sean Penn and Other Hollywood Elite Worshipped Chavez
Tuesday, 05 Mar 2013 07:28 PM
By Bill Hoffmann
A host of Hollywood A-listers have rushed to support Hugo Chavez over
the years — the most glaring example of which was Sean Penn.
The Oscar-winning actor Penn continuously praised Chavez, saying he
generously helped his country’s poor and destitute and was a
fascinating and bold leader.
Penn is an ignorant asshole.
Post by JohnJohnsn
Chavez, who ruled Venezuela with an iron fist for 14 years, died on
Tuesday after battling cancer for two years. He had, over the years,
been feted by Hollywood's elite even as he remained a thorn in the
side of America's policies in the region.
During the Penn visit to Chavez, the loudmouth star ripped the
policies of President George W. Bush towards Chavez and once whipped
himself into such a frenzy that he reportedly called for the arrest of
those who referred to Chavez as a dictator.
“[Chavez is] one of the most important forces we've had on this
planet," Penn gushed late last year as the Venezuelan president’s
health deteriorated.
“And I’ll wish him nothing but that great strength he has shown over
and over again. I do it in love, and I do it in gratitude.
“I just want to say, from my very American point of view, of my friend
President Chavez: It is only possible to be so inspiring as he is, as
a two-way street.’’
Penn also accused the American media of going after Chavez and telling
“lies’’ about him.
The actor’s love of Chavez became so embarrassing to some in Hollywood
that Matt Stone and Trey Parker savagely lampooned him in their movie
"Team America: World Police" a parody that infuriated the star.
Penn had plenty of company when it came to his Chavez worship.
Other unabashed admirers included Kevin Spacey, Danny Glover, Oliver
Stone, Harry Belafonte, Naomi Campbell, and Princeton University
Professor Cornel West.
And some are nearly as critical as Penn.
Belafonte labeled George W. Bush the "greatest tyrant in the world,’’
while telling Chavez how “millions’’ of Americans supported him.
Belafonte is an idiot, too. Bush was hardly a "tyrant". He was
undoubtedly the worst president of the last 100 years, possibly the
worst ever, but not a tyrant.
I once sat next to Cornel West on the train from Princeton Junction to
NYC, many years ago. He's an overrated idiot, too.

Intellectually, he couldn't hold a candle to Shelby Steele, although
Steele looks like he gets his tan at the same spray booth as John
Boehner. He doesn't really look black.
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Post by George Plimpton
Post by JohnJohnsn
Boxing promoter Don King praised Chavez and his "revolution,’’
announcing, "To see what is happening here makes me feel good all
over.’’
Don King?!? Ha ha ha ha! King once described the American legal system
thusly: "That is why we have a system of justice; of 'Jewishprudence'."
http://www.johnspeedie.com/healy/justice.wav
Mikey
2013-03-06 22:47:53 UTC
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Post by JohnJohnsn
http://www.latimes.com/news/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-chavez-dies-20130...
Good. He was an oppressive asshole who made life worse for Venezuelans.
Sean Penn and Other Hollywood Elite Worshipped Chavez
Tuesday, 05 Mar 2013 07:28 PM
By Bill Hoffmann
A host of Hollywood A-listers have rushed to support Hugo Chavez over
the years — the most glaring example of which was Sean Penn.
The Oscar-winning actor Penn continuously praised Chavez, saying he
generously helped his country’s poor and destitute and was a
fascinating and bold leader.
Chavez, who ruled Venezuela with an iron fist for 14 years, died on
Tuesday after battling cancer for two years. He had, over the years,
been feted by Hollywood's elite even as he remained a thorn in the
side of America's policies in the region.
During the Penn visit to Chavez, the loudmouth star ripped the
policies of President George W. Bush towards Chavez and once whipped
himself into such a frenzy that he reportedly called for the arrest of
those who referred to Chavez as a dictator.
“[Chavez is] one of the most important forces we've had on this
planet," Penn gushed late last year as the Venezuelan president’s
health deteriorated.
“And I’ll wish him nothing but that great strength he has shown over
and over again. I do it in love, and I do it in gratitude.
“I just want to say, from my very American point of view, of my friend
President Chavez: It is only possible to be so inspiring as he is, as
a two-way street.’’
Penn also accused the American media of going after Chavez and telling
“lies’’ about him.
The actor’s love of Chavez became so embarrassing to some in Hollywood
that Matt Stone and Trey Parker savagely lampooned him in their movie
"Team America: World Police" a parody that infuriated the star.
Penn had plenty of company when it came to his Chavez worship.
Other unabashed admirers included Kevin Spacey, Danny Glover, Oliver
Stone, Harry Belafonte, Naomi Campbell, and Princeton University
Professor Cornel West.
And some are nearly as critical as Penn.
Belafonte labeled George W. Bush the "greatest tyrant in the world,’’
while telling Chavez how “millions’’ of Americans supported him.
Boxing promoter Don King praised Chavez and his "revolution,’’
announcing, "To see what is happening here makes me feel good all
over.’’
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http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/chavez-celebrity-supporters-penn/2013/03/05/id/493301
King is just another murderer.
Dhu on Gate
2013-03-06 15:37:41 UTC
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Good. He was an oppressive asshole who made life worse for Venezuelans.
Ah balls. He got re-elected in a *fair* election. The world will miss him, if only for that.

Dhu
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Dave Smith
2013-03-06 16:10:56 UTC
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Post by George Plimpton
http://www.latimes.com/news/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-chavez-dies-20130305,0,7894283.story
Good. He was an oppressive asshole who made life worse for Venezuelans.
Ah balls. He got re-elected in a *fair* election. The world will miss him, if only for that.
He would not be the first despot to be elected or re-elected in an election.
Denny
2013-03-06 16:54:26 UTC
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Post by Dhu on Gate
Post by George Plimpton
http://www.latimes.com/news/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-chavez-dies-201303
05,0,7894283.story
Good. He was an oppressive asshole who made life worse for
Venezuelans.
Ah balls. He got re-elected in a *fair* election. The world will miss
him, if only for that.
He would not be the first despot to be elected or re-elected in an election.
Like George W. Bush
George Plimpton
2013-03-06 17:19:25 UTC
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Post by George Plimpton
http://www.latimes.com/news/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-chavez-dies-201303
05,0,7894283.story
Good. He was an oppressive asshole who made life worse for
Venezuelans.
Ah balls. He got re-elected in a *fair* election. The world will miss
him, if only for that.
He would not be the first despot to be elected or re-elected in an election.
Like George W. Bush
Bush was a terrible president, but not a despot. You reveal your
chronic moral confusion too easily.
Dave Smith
2013-03-06 18:30:05 UTC
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Post by Denny
Post by Dave Smith
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Post by George Plimpton
http://www.latimes.com/news/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-chavez-dies-201303
05,0,7894283.story
Good. He was an oppressive asshole who made life worse for Venezuelans.
Ah balls. He got re-elected in a *fair* election. The world will miss
him, if only for that.
He would not be the first despot to be elected or re-elected in an election.
Like George W. Bush
Bush was a terrible president, but not a despot. You reveal your
chronic moral confusion too easily.
Of course not. A despot would the the sort who would invent excuses to
invade other countries, like suggesting they were a threat to US
interests because they had a vast arsenal of WMDs and had to be disarmed.
George Plimpton
2013-03-06 19:10:54 UTC
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Post by Denny
Post by Dave Smith
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Post by George Plimpton
http://www.latimes.com/news/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-chavez-dies-201303
05,0,7894283.story
Good. He was an oppressive asshole who made life worse for Venezuelans.
Ah balls. He got re-elected in a *fair* election. The world will miss
him, if only for that.
He would not be the first despot to be elected or re-elected in an election.
Like George W. Bush
Bush was a terrible president, but not a despot. You reveal your
chronic moral confusion too easily.
Of course not. A despot would the the sort who would invent excuses to
invade other countries, like suggesting they were a threat to US
interests because they had a vast arsenal of WMDs and had to be disarmed.
No, that's not a despot. That's just the bad actions of a bad president.

Despot:
2 a : a ruler with absolute power and authority
b : a person exercising power tyrannically

Bush was neither. He was just a stupid, bad president, but not a despot.
Dhu on Gate
2013-03-06 20:01:15 UTC
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http://www.latimes.com/news/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-chavez-dies-201303
05,0,7894283.story
Good. He was an oppressive asshole who made life worse for Venezuelans.
Ah balls. He got re-elected in a *fair* election. The world will miss
him, if only for that.
He would not be the first despot to be elected or re-elected in an election.
Like George W. Bush
Bush was a terrible president, but not a despot. You reveal your
chronic moral confusion too easily.
Of course not. A despot would the the sort who would invent excuses to
invade other countries, like suggesting they were a threat to US
interests because they had a vast arsenal of WMDs and had to be disarmed.
No, that's not a despot. That's just the bad actions of a bad president.
2 a : a ruler with absolute power and authority
b : a person exercising power tyrannically
Bush was neither. He was just a stupid, bad president, but not a despot.
You are wrong. GWB was no fool.

Dhu
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George Plimpton
2013-03-06 20:37:38 UTC
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http://www.latimes.com/news/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-chavez-dies-201303
05,0,7894283.story
Good. He was an oppressive asshole who made life worse for Venezuelans.
Ah balls. He got re-elected in a *fair* election. The world will miss
him, if only for that.
He would not be the first despot to be elected or re-elected in an election.
Like George W. Bush
Bush was a terrible president, but not a despot. You reveal your
chronic moral confusion too easily.
Of course not. A despot would the the sort who would invent excuses to
invade other countries, like suggesting they were a threat to US
interests because they had a vast arsenal of WMDs and had to be disarmed.
No, that's not a despot. That's just the bad actions of a bad president.
2 a : a ruler with absolute power and authority
b : a person exercising power tyrannically
Bush was neither. He was just a stupid, bad president, but not a despot.
You are wrong. GWB was no fool.
I'm not wrong. He wasn't a fool, but he was and is stupid. He is the
most uncurious and anti-intellectual and plain old *lazy* president in
over a century.

You actually come closer to being a fool.
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No, that's not a despot. That's just the bad actions of a bad president.
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Stormin Mormon
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I'd expect a despot to create a "department of Fatherland Security" armed
with lots of ammo, tanks, and weapons of war. You know, the kind Obama says
don't belong on the streets of USA.

A despot would declare that he has the power to kill anyone in the nation,
with or without due process of law. You know, like the drones Obama is
ordering to be built.

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Of course not. A despot would the the sort who would invent excuses to
invade other countries, like suggesting they were a threat to US
interests because they had a vast arsenal of WMDs and had to be disarmed.
Dave Smith
2013-03-06 23:09:08 UTC
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I'd expect a despot to create a "department of Fatherland Security" armed
with lots of ammo, tanks, and weapons of war. You know, the kind Obama says
don't belong on the streets of USA.
Since when did the president have the soul say on what weapons systems
are to be built for and deployed by the military?
SpamBuster
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I'd expect a despot to create a "department of Fatherland Security" armed
Since when did the president have the soul say on what weapons systems
are to be built for and deployed by the military?
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I'd expect a despot to create a "department of Fatherland Security" armed
That would be Bush.
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Bush was a terrible president,
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http://www.latimes.com/news/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-chavez-dies-201303
05,0,7894283.story
Good. He was an oppressive asshole who made life worse for Venezuelans.
Ah balls. He got re-elected in a *fair* election. The world will miss
him, if only for that.
He would not be the first despot to be elected or re-elected in an election.
Like George W. Bush
Bush was a terrible president, but not a despot. You reveal your
chronic moral confusion too easily.
No despot: Treasoner. 9-11 was an *inside job* to empower a lame duck.

Dhu
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2013-03-06 20:36:27 UTC
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Post by Denny
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Post by Dhu on Gate
Post by George Plimpton
http://www.latimes.com/news/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-chavez-dies-201303
05,0,7894283.story
Good. He was an oppressive asshole who made life worse for Venezuelans.
Ah balls. He got re-elected in a *fair* election. The world will miss
him, if only for that.
He would not be the first despot to be elected or re-elected in an election.
Like George W. Bush
Bush was a terrible president, but not a despot. You reveal your
chronic moral confusion too easily.
No despot: Treasoner. 9-11 was an *inside job* to empower a lame duck.
No, it wasn't, you stupid irrational 'truther'.
Denny
2013-03-06 22:03:26 UTC
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Post by George Plimpton
Post by Denny
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http://www.latimes.com/news/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-chavez-dies-201
303 05,0,7894283.story
Good. He was an oppressive asshole who made life worse for Venezuelans.
Ah balls. He got re-elected in a *fair* election. The world will
miss him, if only for that.
He would not be the first despot to be elected or re-elected in an election.
Like George W. Bush
Bush was a terrible president, but not a despot. You reveal your
chronic moral confusion too easily.
No despot: Treasoner. 9-11 was an *inside job* to empower a lame duck.
Dhu
Is this a put-on? Which lame duck?

It's spelled "duh".
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Strange. I was thinking the guy who was recently reelected.

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He would not be the first despot to be elected or re-elected in an election.
Like George W. Bush
Dave Smith
2013-03-06 18:28:30 UTC
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s.
Post by Denny
Post by Dave Smith
Post by Dhu on Gate
Ah balls. He got re-elected in a *fair* election. The world will miss
him, if only for that.
He would not be the first despot to be elected or re-elected in an election.
Like George W. Bush
I was referring only to the election. I opted at the time not to even
mention that one because I thought it was about fair and honest election
and that one, IMO, certainly makes me wonder about the honesty and
fairness and American elections.
George Plimpton
2013-03-06 19:08:46 UTC
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s.
Post by Denny
Post by Dave Smith
Post by Dhu on Gate
Ah balls. He got re-elected in a *fair* election. The world will miss
him, if only for that.
He would not be the first despot to be elected or re-elected in an election.
Like George W. Bush
I was referring only to the election. I opted at the time not to even
mention that one because I thought it was about fair and honest election
and that one, IMO, certainly makes me wonder about the honesty and
fairness and American elections.
There was nothing unfair about either the election or reelection of
George W. Bush as president. People who say the Supreme Court
"appointed" him president are idiots. The endless Democrat attempts at
recounts in Florida were a blatant attempt at stealing the election.
It's quite likely they weren't even attempting to win the state's
electoral votes; they more likely were trying to *prevent* the state's
vote from being certified and reported to Congress, which would have
given the election to Gore. It was blatant. The Supreme Court put a
stop to it, and Bush was duly elected by the Electoral College. Every
subsequent analysis showed that Bush would have won Florida no matter
how many recounts were done, as long as the ballots were not manipulated
and contaminated by Democrats.

Bush's reelection was never credibly challenged as being anything less
than clean.
Dave Smith
2013-03-06 23:04:46 UTC
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Post by Dave Smith
I was referring only to the election. I opted at the time not to even
mention that one because I thought it was about fair and honest election
and that one, IMO, certainly makes me wonder about the honesty and
fairness and American elections.
There was nothing unfair about either the election or reelection of
George W. Bush as president. People who say the Supreme Court
"appointed" him president are idiots. The endless Democrat attempts at
recounts in Florida were a blatant attempt at stealing the election.
It looked more to me like a blatant attempt to count the votes for the
people whose choices were disregarded due to a faulty card.... the
infamous hanging chads.
Post by George Plimpton
It's quite likely they weren't even attempting to win the state's
electoral votes; they more likely were trying to *prevent* the state's
vote from being certified and reported to Congress, which would have
given the election to Gore. It was blatant. The Supreme Court put a
stop to it, and Bush was duly elected by the Electoral College.
Yes. Since the questionable results in Florida resulted in a win for
Bush all Electoral College votes automatically for him.
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I was referring only to the election. I opted at the time not to even
mention that one because I thought it was about fair and honest election
and that one, IMO, certainly makes me wonder about the honesty and
fairness and American elections.
There was nothing unfair about either the election or reelection of
George W. Bush as president. People who say the Supreme Court
"appointed" him president are idiots. The endless Democrat attempts at
recounts in Florida were a blatant attempt at stealing the election.
It looked more to me like a blatant attempt to count the votes for the
people whose choices were disregarded due to a faulty card.... the
infamous hanging chads.
There's much more to it than that. The Democrats were working furiously
to get whole categories of ballots *disqualified*, making a mockery of
their pious declaration of trying to be sure "every vote is counted."
They were entirely selective about *which* ballots with hanging chads
they were trying to get counted. They were closely scrutinizing
irregular ballots to see if it was a likely vote for Gore or more likely
for Bush. If the ballot generally appeared to be for Republicans with
an ambiguous vote for president, they were handling it roughly to try
expressly to render the vote for president invalid.
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Post by George Plimpton
It's quite likely they weren't even attempting to win the state's
electoral votes; they more likely were trying to *prevent* the state's
vote from being certified and reported to Congress, which would have
given the election to Gore. It was blatant. The Supreme Court put a
stop to it, and Bush was duly elected by the Electoral College.
Yes. Since the questionable results in Florida resulted in a win for
Bush all Electoral College votes automatically for him.
All of Florida's EC votes. That's how nearly all states award their EC
votes. There's nothing irregular or shady or sneaky or fraudulent about it.

In the end, of course, there was very little question that Bush won the
Florida vote. All subsequent analysis showed that he would have won
every legitimate, non-fraudulent recount. The claim that the SCOTUS
"appointed" him president is not only an idiotic lie, it fundamentally
gets the Constitution wrong, as the court has no such appointment power.
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Like George W. Bush
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Ah balls. He got re-elected in a *fair* election. The world will
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Ramon F. Herrera
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Good.  He was an oppressive asshole who made life worse for Venezuelans.
Ah balls.  He got re-elected in a *fair* election.
The world will miss him, if only for that.
Sorry. The ONLY Chavez election that can be qualified as fair is the
initial one, when he became president in 1998.

The 2004 Recall Referendum was the biggest electoral fraud in the
history of the Americas. Too bad Carter certified it.

-Ramon
Mikey
2013-03-06 22:48:37 UTC
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Post by Dhu on Gate
http://www.latimes.com/news/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-chavez-dies-20130...
Good. He was an oppressive asshole who made life worse for Venezuelans.
Ah balls. He got re-elected in a *fair* election.
The world will miss him, if only for that.
Sorry. The ONLY Chavez election that can be qualified as fair is the
initial one, when he became president in 1998.
The 2004 Recall Referendum was the biggest electoral fraud in the
history of the Americas. Too bad Carter certified it.
-Ramon
Carter is an asshole.
George Plimpton
2013-03-06 16:27:19 UTC
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http://www.latimes.com/news/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-chavez-dies-20130305,0,7894283.story
Good. He was an oppressive asshole who made life worse for Venezuelans.
Ah balls. He got re-elected in a *fair* election.
No, he didn't. What fucking election were /you/ watching, cuntflaps?

According to the Associated Press, Venezuela’s electoral council
has declared that Hugo Chavez beat Henriques Capriles in Sunday’s
presidential election with about 54 percent of the vote, despite
exit polls showing otherwise.

Venezuela Twitter users have claimed Chavez’s victory was wrought
with election fraud, and that the socialist incumbent president
sent tanks into the streets of his country as those exit poll
reports showed him losing. A picture of the tanks surfaced on
Twitter Sunday evening.


http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/07/report-exit-polls-show-hugo-chavez-lost-venezuelan-election/#ixzz2MmFavlLa


Amid an imploding economy, runaway inflation, shortages of basic
goods, electricity blackouts, surging violence, and widespread
accusations of voter fraud in Venezuela, socialist strongman Hugo
Chávez allegedly won a narrow victory in Sunday’s presidential
election, according to the nation’s National Electoral Council
(CNE). Though the Venezuelan regime has a ban on publishing the
results of exit polls, a widely cited survey conducted by the
consulting firm Varianza showed opposition candidate Henrique
Capriles ahead by a slim margin as the vote was coming to an end.


http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/south-america/item/13138-amid-accusations-of-fraud-socialist-chavez-wins-election


Being a doctrinaire left-wing fuckwit, though, you have to pretend to
see something else.

Chavez imposed a constitution that limited the president to two terms;
then, when he didn't like that restriction, he simply lifted it through
a sham "referendum".

This guy was just one more in a long line of Latin American
caudillos...and because his caudilloism was left-wing, you lap it up.
Dave Smith
2013-03-06 18:36:10 UTC
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Being a doctrinaire left-wing fuckwit, though, you have to pretend to
see something else.
Chavez imposed a constitution that limited the president to two terms;
then, when he didn't like that restriction, he simply lifted it through
a sham "referendum".
This guy was just one more in a long line of Latin American
caudillos...and because his caudilloism was left-wing, you lap it up.
Is is always leftists that do things like that. The US went to war in
Vietnam over an issue that could have been resolved with a democratic
election. The Vietnamese had a massive nationalist movement that wanted
to wrestle their country away from France. The communists were only one
of many nationalist groups. There was a civil war and the country was
divided roughly in the middle. The deal that ended that war left the
communists in charge of the North and called for a national referendum
on reunification by. As the date for the referendum approached and it
became very clear that the communists were going to win the popular
vote, the corrupt leadership of the south had the full support of the
US to cancel the referendum.

So here you are accusing one leader of holding a sham referendum when
the US supported an truly corrupt regime to cancel a previously agrees
upon vote because they knew they were going to lose.
George Plimpton
2013-03-06 19:11:53 UTC
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Being a doctrinaire left-wing fuckwit, though, you have to pretend to
see something else.
Chavez imposed a constitution that limited the president to two terms;
then, when he didn't like that restriction, he simply lifted it through
a sham "referendum".
This guy was just one more in a long line of Latin American
caudillos...and because his caudilloism was left-wing, you lap it up.
Is is always leftists that do things like that. [...]
No, it isn't - but in this case, it was.
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Ah balls. He got re-elected in a *fair* election. The world will miss him, if only for that.
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Post by George Plimpton
http://www.latimes.com/news/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-chavez-dies-20130305,0,7894283.story
Good. He was an oppressive asshole who made life worse for Venezuelans.
================

While he did indeed make life worse for some Venezuelans, he
made life better for far more Venezuelans, particularly
access to food and education for the less privileged, i.e.
the vast majority.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_food
<snip>
As of 2011, the following ten countries have adopted a
framework law on food security or the right to food:
Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Ecuador, El Salvador, Guatemala,
Indonesia, Nicaragua, Peru and Venezuela.[48] Moreover, in
2011 the following nine countries were drafting a framework
law on food security or the right to food: Honduras, India,
Malawi, Mexico, Mozambique, Paraguay, South Africa, Tanzania
and Uganda.[49] Finally, El Salvador, Nicaragua and Peru are
drafting to update, replace or strengthen their framework
law.[50]
<snip>

http://venezuela-us.org/educacion-en-numeros/
<snip>
One of the main achievements of the Bolivarian government of
Venezuela has been the expansion of educational
opportunities and resources for the majority of the
Venezuelan people. Beyond increasing access to existing
basic and higher education, Venezuela has instituted
programs aimed at sectors of the population who have been
left out of the formal education system. These programs,
known as “missions,” have served millions of Venezuelans,
allowing them to gain basic literacy, complete basic or
higher education, and enter the workforce.
<snip>


The society/culture/economy of Venezuela is totally
different than the current U.S. society/culture/environment
and most closely resembles the U.S. south during
reconstruction.

It should be remembered that the U.S. government or rogue
elements (Spruille Braden Brigade?) fomented a coup against
Chavez, which would have succeeded except for the personal
loyalty of the Parachute [air mobile] regiment of which
Chavez had been the well liked and respected commander,
which intervened just moments before Chavez was to commit
[assisted] suicide.

The US news media is *HIGHLY* provincial bordering on
Agitprop*, and most likely you should take a little time to
see how other people/countries perceive things. To start the
following are suggested:

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rnv.gov.ve%2F

http://english.telam.com.ar/

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=http://www.pagina12.com.ar

* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agitprop
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"Gold is the money of kings,
silver is the money of gentlemen,
barter is the money of peasants,
but debt is the money of slaves"

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George Plimpton
2013-03-06 21:37:16 UTC
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On Tue, 05 Mar 2013 14:33:29 -0800, George Plimpton
Post by George Plimpton
http://www.latimes.com/news/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-chavez-dies-20130305,0,7894283.story
Good. He was an oppressive asshole who made life worse for Venezuelans.
================
While he did indeed make life worse for some Venezuelans, he
made life better for far more Venezuelans, particularly
access to food and education for the less privileged, i.e.
the vast majority.
He only made life better for some Venezuelans by stealing from others.
Further, he has done long term damage to the Venezuelan economy that
will ultimately make all Venezuelans worse off.
George Plimpton
2013-03-06 21:38:46 UTC
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_food
There is no "right" to food, or a "right" to any other good or service.
There cannot be.
Juan Alderete
2013-03-06 21:53:32 UTC
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_food
There is no "right" to food, or a "right" to any other good or service.
There cannot be.

####

You have the right to starve, you Lazy Liberal Socialist retard!
NO Government has an OBLIGATION to feed you, you lazy Liberal Socialist
retard.

Get a job!


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2013-03-06 22:03:17 UTC
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Post by F. George McDuffee
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_food
There is no "right" to food, or a "right" to any other good or service.
There cannot be.
####
You have the right to starve, you Lazy Liberal Socialist retard!
NO Government has an OBLIGATION to feed you, you lazy Liberal Socialist
retard.
That's what I just said, you fuckwit. The government *cannot* have an
obligation to feed you because to do so would imply that you had a right
to food, and I flatly stated there is no such right.

Learn to read, you stupid ham hock.
China Blue Clay
2013-03-06 23:52:59 UTC
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Post by George Plimpton
Post by George Plimpton
Post by F. George McDuffee
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_food
There is no "right" to food, or a "right" to any other good or service.
There cannot be.
####
You have the right to starve, you Lazy Liberal Socialist retard!
NO Government has an OBLIGATION to feed you, you lazy Liberal Socialist
retard.
That's what I just said, you fuckwit. The government *cannot* have an
obligation to feed you because to do so would imply that you had a right
to food, and I flatly stated there is no such right.
It's a good we don't have a democracy or other people would have a say in that
decision.
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Post by George Plimpton
Post by George Plimpton
Post by F. George McDuffee
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_food
There is no "right" to food, or a "right" to any other good or service.
There cannot be.
####
You have the right to starve, you Lazy Liberal Socialist retard!
NO Government has an OBLIGATION to feed you, you lazy Liberal Socialist
retard.
That's what I just said, you fuckwit. The government *cannot* have an
obligation to feed you because to do so would imply that you had a right
to food, and I flatly stated there is no such right.
It's a good we don't have a democracy or other people would have a say in that
decision.
We do have a democracy, but people can't create rights.

People cannot have a right to the productive effort of others. It's
impossible for the voters to fabricate such a right.
F. George McDuffee
2013-03-07 01:47:59 UTC
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<***@si.not> wrote:
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Post by George Plimpton
Post by Juan Alderete
You have the right to starve, you Lazy Liberal Socialist retard!
NO Government has an OBLIGATION to feed you, you lazy Liberal Socialist
retard.
That's what I just said, you fuckwit. The government *cannot* have an
obligation to feed you because to do so would imply that you had a right
to food, and I flatly stated there is no such right.
<snip>

There may not be a "right" but it in the government's
self-interest to keep their population adequately but not
extravagantly fed.

In the recent past the so-called "Arab spring" was far more
about hunger than any huge desire for "freedom," and a
number of Arab ex leaders are either dead or in jail as the
direct result their failure to insure an adequate food
supply ==>at prices the people could afford<== (which is far
different than "free" food, but which may require CCC/WPA
type projects to insure they have the money to buy it).

FWIW -- much of this appears to be self inflicted, for
example immediately after independence from the UK, Egypt
was self-sufficient in food production, now they must import
c.40% of their food and 60% of their wheat, and even an
increase of even a few dollars a ton for wheat is a killer
for people for whom bread is a staple and who must spend
30-40% (and more) of their income on food.
http://www.businessinsider.com/egypts-food-problem-in-a-nutshell-2011-1
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2011/12/20111219143454601107.html

While the Aswan High Dam and Lake Nassar did take
considerable highly productive land out of cultivation,
there appears to be no reason that water was not used to
being even more land into cultivation ==>for domestic food
production<== through irrigation. One contributing factor
appears to be the enormous population shift from the
productive countryside, where there was subsistence
agriculture to fall back on, to the grossly oversized
ultra-high density urban areas which are famines waiting to
happen, and revolutions waiting to start.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aswan_Dam
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silver is the money of gentlemen,
barter is the money of peasants,
but debt is the money of slaves"

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ALL CANADIANS ARE RETARDS!
Actually, that's wrong. Canadians are generally nice, decent people -
almost decent to a fault. However, Karen Gordon, the HIV-oozing
mackerel crotch town whore of Nanaimo, BC is definitely a retard.
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ALL CANADIANS ARE RETARDS!
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It should be remembered that the U.S. government or rogue elements
(Spruille Braden Brigade?) fomented a coup against Chavez,
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