On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 22:54:27 +1000, Daniel65
Post by Daniel65On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 09:17:19 +0100, Intelligent Party
Post by Intelligent PartySay Ukraine will only be in military alliance only with Euro
powers, and not with countries across the ocean. And say Ukraine
will be in EU, and in free association with Russia.
It's likely Russians saying to have NATO in Ukraine, the resist and
fight Russia, because this allows Russia to fight Ukraine and
annex it.
You don't win a war through defense alone. Ukraine is not far away
from Russia like Afghanistan, or Vietnam to the United States.
It's like if the U.S. were fighting Mexico, and Russia was going to
stop the U.S. from annexing Baja. Russia will just take more and
more of Ukraine over time. The only other possibility is if Russia
were to implode. That is, to overthrow through civil war, and is
this really going to happen?
The Ukraine started the war. They mistreated Russian people living
in the Ukraine,and they asked Russia for help. Don't believe
propaganda from US and UK governments.
If Ukraine mistreated Russians who lived in The Ukraine, those Russian
Citizens had the option to go back to Russian, didn't they??
If they were Ukraine Citizens of Russian Birth, why did they give up
their Russian Citizenship??
Or were they Russian born whilst that area was all tied up in the U.S.S.R.??
Or something else??
If you want the truth it's all here!
Robert F Kennedy Jr.
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https://tinyurl.com/2clayovn
Ep. 16 RFK Jr. explains Ukraine, bio-labs, and who killed his uncle
23:24 in video
The Crimean population is largely Russian and they welcome the
invasion.
So, you know, again, I'm not make excuses for him, but I'm saying we
have to understand my uncle always said we have to understand the
position of our adversaries'
So, so then the Russians, as soon as we put in that government, the
first rule they passed is to make the Russian language essentially
illegal in Donbas and Luhansk, where 90% the population is Russian and
they and there's peaceful uprising which people begin dying, they turn
violent, now which side made them violent is a dispute, but it's not a
dispute.
The Russian ethnic population in Ukraine are now being treated like
redheaded step children.
They're being slapped around, they're being abused, and they're not
being allowed to practice their culture, their language.
And so there is a vote where they vote 90 to 10 to join Russia, Russia
says, no, no, I don't want you let's sign an agreement that protects
you
24:53
The Crimean population is largely Russian and they welcome the
invasion.
So, you know, again, I'm not make excuses for him, but I'm saying we
have to understand my uncle always said we have to understand the
position of our adversaries'
So, so then the Russians, as soon as we put in that government, the
first rule they passed is to make the Russian language essentially
illegal in Donbas and Luhansk, where 90% the population is Russian and
they and there's peaceful uprising which people begin dying, they turn
violent, now which side made them violent is a dispute, but it's not a
dispute.
So, so then the Russians, as soon as we put in that government, the
first rule they passed is to make the Russian language essentially
illegal in Donbas and Luhansk, where 90% the population is Russian and
they and there's peaceful uprising which people begin dying, they turn
violent, now which side made them violent is a dispute, but it's not a
dispute.
The Russian ethnic population in Ukraine are now being treated like
redheaded step children.
They're not you know, they're being slapped around, they're being
abused, and they're not being allowed to practice their culture, their
language.
And so there is a vote where they vote 90 to 10 to join Russia, Russia
says, no, no, I don't want you let's sign an agreement that protects
you
24:53
So, so then the Russians, as soon as we put in that government, the
first rule they passed is to make the Russian language essentially
illegal in Donbas and Luhansk, where 90% the population is Russian and
they and there's peaceful uprising which people begin dying, they turn
violent, now which side made them violent is a dispute,b_ut it's not a
dispute.
So they put together an agreement with France, Germany and Russia,
called the Minsk accords.
The Minsk accords leave Donbas and Luhansk as part of Ukraine, but
make them semi-autonomous.
So they can speak their own language.
And so the Russians are going to be protected from violence by the
government.
The Russian parliament or the Ukrainian parliament won't ratify the
Minsk accords, but France agreed to it.
Germany agreed to it
Zelensky in 2019, Zelensky is a comedian and he's an actor.
And I'm not saying that a derogatory way because my wife is a comedian
and actor, but I'm saying it because here is a guy with no political
background who wins the election with 90% of the vote.
Why did he win the election.
He won the election because he ran on a peace platform.
He ran promising that he would sign the Minsk accords.
He gets into office, the minute he gets there, and he's told
everybody, I'm going to sign the Minsk accords and settle the peace
with Russia.
26:14
He, he suddenly pivots and the we don't know what happened, but the
rational assumption is that the US government told him he could not do
that.
So that Victoria Nuland and Anthony Blinken and Avril Haines, who's
the DNI, Director of National Intelligence, oh you cannot have a peace
with Russia, plus people within, you know, ultra nationalists within
Ukraine told him, if you sign that, we're going to kill you
And a lot of people say anyway, if they threatened him with death, and
that is pretty well documented.
Then Russia invades, but Russia only invades.
And so we say, oh, look, you know, Putin is trying to take over
Europe, but they only send in 40,000 troops.
I think there's three and a half million people in Kiev.
27:18
there's more fact but you don't want the truth and "our" media don't
want you to know it.
Just follow the media you'll be right
like these people did for the clean shower rooms
https://ibb.co/27KS92x
--
Petzl
Threatening journalists with arrest seems unthinkable now but that
was just one of the obstacles they faced at the start of WWI.
"Shortly, the public will be unable to reason or think for themselves.
They'll only be able to parrot the information they've been given on
the previous night's news."
Zbigniew Brzezinski 1972
Every British child had to state this hype in classroom to other
children before WWI began,