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War on Iraq: Not Oil but Israel
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Balmor
2005-11-26 17:54:07 UTC
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2005-11-26

War on Iraq: Not Oil but Israel

Americans die while Zionists lie

by Stepehen J. Sniegoski

The most popular argument of the critics of the Iraq war has been that
the United States went to war for oil - that is, that the war had
nothing to do with combating terrorism. Writing in the Christian
Science Monitor before the war, Brendan O'Neill reported that "for
many in the antiwar movement, the idea that the Bushies' plan to
invade the Gulf to get their greasy hands on more oil has become an
article of faith, an unquestionable truth repeated like a mantra."
Among those believers is America's preeminent left-wing war critic,
Noam Chomsky: "Of course it was Iraq's energy resources. It's not even
a question. Iraq's one of the major oil producers in the world. It has
the second largest reserves and it's right in the heart of the Gulf's
oil-producing region, which U.S. intelligence predicts is going to be
two thirds of world resources in coming years."

That goes against what I regard as the fundamental reason for the war:
the war was led by neoconservatives and fought in the interests of
Israel, at least as Likudniks envision Israel's interests. It is all
well-documented, though the neocons imply that Israeli interests
coincide with those of the United States. But as I point out in my
article on the subject - and this fact is on the public record, too -
the original idea for the war was conceived in Israel. Moreover, the
war achieved the goal hoped for by the Likudniks - destabilization of
the Middle East.

article continued at
http://www.thornwalker.com/ditch/snieg_oilwar.htm
abelard
2005-11-26 18:32:25 UTC
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Post by Balmor
2005-11-26
War on Iraq: Not Oil but Israel
Americans die while Zionists lie
by Stepehen J. Sniegoski
The most popular argument of the critics of the Iraq war has been that
the United States went to war for oil - that is, that the war had
nothing to do with combating terrorism. Writing in the Christian
Science Monitor before the war, Brendan O'Neill reported that "for
many in the antiwar movement, the idea that the Bushies' plan to
invade the Gulf to get their greasy hands on more oil has become an
article of faith, an unquestionable truth repeated like a mantra."
Among those believers is America's preeminent left-wing war critic,
Noam Chomsky: "Of course it was Iraq's energy resources. It's not even
a question. Iraq's one of the major oil producers in the world. It has
the second largest reserves and it's right in the heart of the Gulf's
oil-producing region, which U.S. intelligence predicts is going to be
two thirds of world resources in coming years."
the war was led by neoconservatives and fought in the interests of
Israel, at least as Likudniks envision Israel's interests. It is all
well-documented, though the neocons imply that Israeli interests
coincide with those of the United States. But as I point out in my
article on the subject
rotf
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h
2005-11-26 19:18:59 UTC
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rotf
Rolling on the floor?
Whatever's wrong with you?
Tummy ache or did you fall over in a drunken stupor and are now unable to
get up?
hummingbird
2005-11-26 19:37:35 UTC
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On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 19:18:59 -0000, "h" <***@btincompetence.com>
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rotf
Rolling on the floor?
Whatever's wrong with you?
Tummy ache or did you fall over in a drunken stupor and are now unable to
get up?
Lardy's been guzzling yak yogurt again.
--
"I fear that the Prime Minister has become unhinged.
He has always tended towards being messianic."
-- Michael Portillo on Blair / Sunday Times:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2088-1879986_1,00.html
The Left One
2005-11-26 22:05:36 UTC
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Post by Balmor
2005-11-26
War on Iraq: Not Oil but Israel
Americans die while Zionists lie
by Stepehen J. Sniegoski
The most popular argument of the critics of the Iraq war has been that
the United States went to war for oil - that is, that the war had
nothing to do with combating terrorism. Writing in the Christian
Science Monitor before the war, Brendan O'Neill reported that "for
many in the antiwar movement, the idea that the Bushies' plan to
invade the Gulf to get their greasy hands on more oil has become an
article of faith, an unquestionable truth repeated like a mantra."
Among those believers is America's preeminent left-wing war critic,
Noam Chomsky: "Of course it was Iraq's energy resources. It's not even
a question. Iraq's one of the major oil producers in the world. It has
the second largest reserves and it's right in the heart of the Gulf's
oil-producing region, which U.S. intelligence predicts is going to be
two thirds of world resources in coming years."
the war was led by neoconservatives and fought in the interests of
Israel, at least as Likudniks envision Israel's interests. It is all
well-documented, though the neocons imply that Israeli interests
coincide with those of the United States. But as I point out in my
article on the subject
rotf
The truth about a war of aggression that killed hundreds of thousands
to date makes you laugh?
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all that is necessary for [] walk quietly and carry
the triumph of evil is that [] a big stick.
good people do nothing [] trust actions not words
only when it's funny -- roger rabbit
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hummingbird
2005-11-26 19:40:54 UTC
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On 26 Nov 2005 09:54:07 -0800, "Balmor" <***@sneakemail.com>
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Post by Balmor
2005-11-26
War on Iraq: Not Oil but Israel
Americans die while Zionists lie
by Stepehen J. Sniegoski
The most popular argument of the critics of the Iraq war has been that
the United States went to war for oil - that is, that the war had
nothing to do with combating terrorism. Writing in the Christian
Science Monitor before the war, Brendan O'Neill reported that "for
many in the antiwar movement, the idea that the Bushies' plan to
invade the Gulf to get their greasy hands on more oil has become an
article of faith, an unquestionable truth repeated like a mantra."
Among those believers is America's preeminent left-wing war critic,
Noam Chomsky: "Of course it was Iraq's energy resources. It's not even
a question. Iraq's one of the major oil producers in the world. It has
the second largest reserves and it's right in the heart of the Gulf's
oil-producing region, which U.S. intelligence predicts is going to be
two thirds of world resources in coming years."
the war was led by neoconservatives and fought in the interests of
Israel, at least as Likudniks envision Israel's interests. It is all
well-documented, though the neocons imply that Israeli interests
coincide with those of the United States. But as I point out in my
article on the subject - and this fact is on the public record, too -
the original idea for the war was conceived in Israel. Moreover, the
war achieved the goal hoped for by the Likudniks - destabilization of
the Middle East.
article continued at
http://www.thornwalker.com/ditch/snieg_oilwar.htm
I don't dispute any of this but the multiple reasons for invading Iraq
that the author refers to are *not* mutually exclusive. What would be
amazing is if there had only been a single reason: Israel's security.

Foreign policy can, but doesn't usually work like that.
--
"I fear that the Prime Minister has become unhinged.
He has always tended towards being messianic."
-- Michael Portillo on Blair / Sunday Times:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2088-1879986_1,00.html
abelard
2005-11-26 19:53:36 UTC
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On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 19:40:54 +0000, hummingbird
Post by hummingbird
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Post by Balmor
2005-11-26
War on Iraq: Not Oil but Israel
Americans die while Zionists lie
by Stepehen J. Sniegoski
The most popular argument of the critics of the Iraq war has been that
the United States went to war for oil - that is, that the war had
nothing to do with combating terrorism. Writing in the Christian
Science Monitor before the war, Brendan O'Neill reported that "for
many in the antiwar movement, the idea that the Bushies' plan to
invade the Gulf to get their greasy hands on more oil has become an
article of faith, an unquestionable truth repeated like a mantra."
Among those believers is America's preeminent left-wing war critic,
Noam Chomsky: "Of course it was Iraq's energy resources. It's not even
a question. Iraq's one of the major oil producers in the world. It has
the second largest reserves and it's right in the heart of the Gulf's
oil-producing region, which U.S. intelligence predicts is going to be
two thirds of world resources in coming years."
the war was led by neoconservatives and fought in the interests of
Israel, at least as Likudniks envision Israel's interests. It is all
well-documented, though the neocons imply that Israeli interests
coincide with those of the United States. But as I point out in my
article on the subject - and this fact is on the public record, too -
the original idea for the war was conceived in Israel. Moreover, the
war achieved the goal hoped for by the Likudniks - destabilization of
the Middle East.
article continued at
http://www.thornwalker.com/ditch/snieg_oilwar.htm
I don't dispute any of this but the multiple reasons for invading Iraq
that the author refers to are *not* mutually exclusive. What would be
amazing is if there had only been a single reason: Israel's security.
Foreign policy can, but doesn't usually work like that.
see...
even you're getting embarrassed by them now....
i reckon the lot of you have been emulating george as
an appropriate tribute....
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--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
all that is necessary for [] walk quietly and carry
the triumph of evil is that [] a big stick.
good people do nothing [] trust actions not words
only when it's funny -- roger rabbit
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
hummingbird
2005-11-26 20:42:32 UTC
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On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 20:53:36 +0100, abelard <***@abelard.org>
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Post by abelard
On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 19:40:54 +0000, hummingbird
Post by hummingbird
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Post by Balmor
2005-11-26
War on Iraq: Not Oil but Israel
Americans die while Zionists lie
by Stepehen J. Sniegoski
The most popular argument of the critics of the Iraq war has been that
the United States went to war for oil - that is, that the war had
nothing to do with combating terrorism. Writing in the Christian
Science Monitor before the war, Brendan O'Neill reported that "for
many in the antiwar movement, the idea that the Bushies' plan to
invade the Gulf to get their greasy hands on more oil has become an
article of faith, an unquestionable truth repeated like a mantra."
Among those believers is America's preeminent left-wing war critic,
Noam Chomsky: "Of course it was Iraq's energy resources. It's not even
a question. Iraq's one of the major oil producers in the world. It has
the second largest reserves and it's right in the heart of the Gulf's
oil-producing region, which U.S. intelligence predicts is going to be
two thirds of world resources in coming years."
the war was led by neoconservatives and fought in the interests of
Israel, at least as Likudniks envision Israel's interests. It is all
well-documented, though the neocons imply that Israeli interests
coincide with those of the United States. But as I point out in my
article on the subject - and this fact is on the public record, too -
the original idea for the war was conceived in Israel. Moreover, the
war achieved the goal hoped for by the Likudniks - destabilization of
the Middle East.
article continued at
http://www.thornwalker.com/ditch/snieg_oilwar.htm
I don't dispute any of this but the multiple reasons for invading Iraq
that the author refers to are *not* mutually exclusive. What would be
amazing is if there had only been a single reason: Israel's security.
Foreign policy can, but doesn't usually work like that.
see...
even you're getting embarrassed by them now....
Duh!?
Post by abelard
i reckon the lot of you have been emulating george as
an appropriate tribute....
What on earth are you on lardy?
--
"I fear that the Prime Minister has become unhinged.
He has always tended towards being messianic."
-- Michael Portillo on Blair / Sunday Times:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2088-1879986_1,00.html
Twilight's Dawn
2005-11-26 21:42:12 UTC
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Post by hummingbird
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Post by abelard
On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 19:40:54 +0000, hummingbird
Post by hummingbird
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Post by Balmor
2005-11-26
War on Iraq: Not Oil but Israel
Americans die while Zionists lie
by Stepehen J. Sniegoski
The most popular argument of the critics of the Iraq war has been that
the United States went to war for oil - that is, that the war had
nothing to do with combating terrorism. Writing in the Christian
Science Monitor before the war, Brendan O'Neill reported that "for
many in the antiwar movement, the idea that the Bushies' plan to
invade the Gulf to get their greasy hands on more oil has become an
article of faith, an unquestionable truth repeated like a mantra."
Among those believers is America's preeminent left-wing war critic,
Noam Chomsky: "Of course it was Iraq's energy resources. It's not even
a question. Iraq's one of the major oil producers in the world. It has
the second largest reserves and it's right in the heart of the Gulf's
oil-producing region, which U.S. intelligence predicts is going to be
two thirds of world resources in coming years."
the war was led by neoconservatives and fought in the interests of
Israel, at least as Likudniks envision Israel's interests. It is all
well-documented, though the neocons imply that Israeli interests
coincide with those of the United States. But as I point out in my
article on the subject - and this fact is on the public record, too -
the original idea for the war was conceived in Israel. Moreover, the
war achieved the goal hoped for by the Likudniks - destabilization of
the Middle East.
article continued at
http://www.thornwalker.com/ditch/snieg_oilwar.htm
I don't dispute any of this but the multiple reasons for invading Iraq
that the author refers to are *not* mutually exclusive. What would be
amazing is if there had only been a single reason: Israel's security.
Foreign policy can, but doesn't usually work like that.
see...
even you're getting embarrassed by them now....
Duh!?
Post by abelard
i reckon the lot of you have been emulating george as
an appropriate tribute....
What on earth are you on lardy?
--
"I fear that the Prime Minister has become unhinged.
He has always tended towards being messianic."
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2088-1879986_1,00.html
If you would say a war for oil, I would have to say yes, but keeping in mind
Hayseed Stephens always believed the world's largest oil pocket in the
world laid underneath the dead sea. In fact, he believed it so much, he
created Ness Energy, a company intent on drilling in Israel. Reportedly,
the pocket of oil under Israel is even larger than Saudi Arabias allotment
of oil. Also, if you would say Bush is trying to make the Middle East more
secure so Israel can build the 3rd Temple, then I would have to say yes to
that also. I daresay these thots come not from Bush, himself, but rather
Billy Graham et al.

Andrew
http://www.frontiernet.net/~aperio/bush.html
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2005-11-27 21:31:22 UTC
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